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Coronavirus in the UK

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by aposhark, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    It would be an understatement to say that people are worried about the spread of coronavirus.
    What are your thoughts on this virus in the UK?
  2. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I am now wearing gloves in work and watch where I touch things.
    There are plastic bottles of anti-bacterial gel around now but I haven't seen anyone wearing a face mask yet.

    I will try not to get too close to people.

    I think I will be more at risk than others because I have to drive off to different places.
    People who work in shops, hospitals and areas where people congregate will be most at risk.

    The wife and I are more concerned about our little kids, whom we love very much :kiss:

    Stay safe everyone.
  3. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    The virus has been named “SARS-CoV-2” and the disease it causes has been named “coronavirus disease 2019” (abbreviated “COVID-19”).
  4. bigmac
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    how many die in the UK each year through "normal" flue...?

    this whole thing is either grossly over exaggerated..or theres something " they " are not telling us.
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    To be honest I don't think about it much,fear of it isn't going to stop me doing what I normally do or going where I normally go,i am not one of lifes worriers,everyones different in how they deal with situations I guess.
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    Having reached the venerable age of 68 and 3/4, understandably I may have to take preventative measures, sooner rather than later. Saying this, tho, I won't cease doing what I usually do altogheter, but with a change or three... Office yes, but home visits to my customers must be cut to a bare minimum. If someone I don't like demands a home wine tasting I will have to tell them that I just returned from Italy.... So .. No
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    Well I can't type with gloves on :D

    Most face masks are useless, and anti bacterial gel has zero effect on viruses, hand washing is simply for removing as much of the virus from your body surface as possible and what they mean is hand washing like a surgeon, i.e. really thoroughly.

    My desk is about 4 metres from the nearest member of my team, however the lad in that seat sneezes explosively every day all year round :D

    The biggest problem for me and our business will be once the virus has a foothold in Africa as we have staff regularly travelling back and forth to that continent, I almost never go out anywhere apart from the supermarket, last Saturday was a rare exception, so generally I would have low exposure to other people but that didn't stop me catching some other virus at the end of January.

    One virologist that I listened too basically said if you are under 12 years old the risk is effectively Zero, we don't know why it is targeting older people or if the youngsters are being infected but show no symptoms but the numbers make it clear that kids are not dying in this outbreak.
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    Fair point none of the published literature I had read had made that point but I can see now that they have, I will start using the proper name :)
  10. oss
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    Malcolm worldwide 0.06% of people who get infected by flu die, on average, some years it is worse.

    This virus is killing up to 4% that's 64 times worse than the flu.

    To put it in perspective at 4% death rate in an epidemic that infects 40% to 70% of the UK population we will pretty much all know someone close to us that died from it, let's pray it does not spread to that extent.

    Nobody appears to be hiding anything about this outbreak.
  11. Maharg
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    I have a couple of trips due this year. One is to Germany in April. The other involves going to The Philippines and changing flights in Hong Kong.

    The general feeling seems to be that Hong Kong is risky. There's the case of the Rugby player who has pulled out of training with the England squad today just because he changed flights in Hong Kong coming to the UK.

    But, if you look at the figures, I would say Germany and the UK are actually a greater risk than Hong Kong airport.

    Hong Kong is now on 100 cases. Germany is nearly double that. The UK is getting a lot of cases recently and is now over half as many people as Hong Kong - where it seems to have virtually stopped in recent weeks.

    By June I think flying via Hong Kong will not be a problem. Maybe I should worry more about going to Germany? Or even staying in the UK and getting the tube in London?

    Or is it a lot of fuss over a bad cold?
  12. oss
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    In two months time it will be everywhere so there will be no reason for any kind of travel restrictions as there will be no containment.

    However it would still be prudent for an individual to decide not to fly as being trapped in a cigar shaped tube with 300 or 400 other people for hours on end is a great way to pass it around.

    Yeah I would be worried about travelling on the London underground or on any train to be honest, private transport i.e. a car wins hands down in this case.

    The death rate from this thing makes it clear that it is not a bad cold.
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  13. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I hope you are right, bigmac ;)
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    That is wonderful news.
    I think too much about children around the world and their safety these days.
    My wife thinks I'm nuts.
    They could cart me off in a body bag tomorrow, I have had a very full and rewarding life, but I look at my kids and think "I hope you two grow up to be nice people and have your own kids."
    I just want to be around to see them grow into adults so they can look after themselves.
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    I wouldn't go anywhere now, Graham, but I have become a worrier since I had kids.

    I even had chest pains when my wife was pregnant with our first born. The doctor told me there was nothing to worry about - I just had a phantom pregnancy :eek:
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    Doctors are on tv today saying that the death rate is greatly exaggerated as it only applies to confirmed cases that have actually been tested. Many, many people will have had this and not been tested due to some cases being mild or due to medical costs in some countries.

    Last month I had a temperature, a bit of a fever, and a bad cough for about 2 weeks. Is it even possible that I've actually had this already? This certainly matches the symptoms that are being given out.

    Would people worry about getting flu if 100 people in Hong Kong had caught flu in the last couple of months?

    I do think there's a lot of hysteria about this. I think the fact that it is something new is causing a lot of worry. Are people dying from it or are they dying from complications from it such as pneumonia? Pneumonia can also be a complication with a common cold, which, itself, is a corona virus and can also cause problems with asthma sufferers.
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    The ratio of diagnosed to deaths is pretty constant for most countries so far apart from Iran which is up to double or triple the ratio elsewhere, yes there will be undiagnosed cases but there will also have been unrecorded or attributed deaths as well in China.

    There is also some evidence now that it does not spread as easily as Flu but it does spread much faster than SARS back in 2002, lower rate of spread means there will be fewer undiagnosed infections.

    We will get to see the real scale of the problem from South Korea quite soon as their statistics will be rigorous.

    People are dying in the second week of the infection, it's either from viral Pneumonia or secondary bacterial Pneumonia infection, I suspect that this is likely a primary viral Pneumonia as a result of the virus itself, that's why they have been diagnosing people in China by doing CAT scans of their lungs as well as PCR tests (Polymerase Chain Reaction).

    I had a cold that fitted these symptoms perfectly at the end of January, I had been in the Phils in December and passed through Singapore Changi airport on New Years Eve I was there for 5 hours through the bells, the cold I had was almost certainly contracted here in the UK the odds of that long an incubation period with such short times spent in a country that could potentially have harboured the infection even at New Year (the Pangolin vector for original transmission) mean that I almost certainly got my cold in the UK.
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    People are worried, just went to Nike World in maidenhead to get some trainers and popped into Tesco, totally sold out of hand sanitisers :confused: my sis works for a private medical company, she chats to a lot of people in the medical field, they all have said this virus is something not to be taken lightly :confused:
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