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Coronavirus in the UK

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by aposhark, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. aposhark
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  2. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    So should I cancel my re-booked flight Mike ;) :D

    If the spread is similar in the UK and the Phils I will probably still travel, my real worry is that an aircraft is an ideal environment for the spread of infection and I don't want to take it out to the kids grandmother by accident.
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    I said "book now" Jim. You have already booked yours! :like:
    It wouldn't be a good idea to book for July or August IMO.

    Yes, your decision to fly is a difficult one but I think, as you have paid now, you just have to go with the flow and keep your fingers crossed.
    It is not the best idea logically but you're thinking on emotional terms as you will see your family.

    My father has asked me not to visit him bringing the kids, as kids seem to carry every germ in the book.
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    What are they going to do with all the bread freezing it does not make a lot of sense (waste of freezer space) and it won't last outside the freezer :D

    This was 30 minutes ago :)

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    And people seem to have an aversion to expensive pasta :D the expensive shelf at the top right is the only one I like but they haven't stocked my favourite pasta for months.

    And those green boxes were emptier yesterday those have been restocked and sold out a again :D
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    The town was noticeably quiet today the roads were empty.
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    Re-booking is a bit like booking now, at least I have the option to cancel up until the end of this month or to re-book for much later in the year but it will depend on what kind of impact the virus is having in both the Phils and the UK by that time, sitting in a plane for 13 hours is a great way to pick up the virus from the one infected person that boarded with you, there is also the point that travel insurance is not going to cover this and that is perhaps the more serious point, I would not be able to afford the hospital treatment if I caught this over there or if I caught it here shortly before travelling.
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    If the vaccine is a long way off, Jim, surely everywhere will be worse as time moves on, including infections in planes.
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    This New Scientist article appears to be publicly available :

    https://www.newscientist.com/articl...are-there-two-strains-and-is-one-more-deadly/

    There is a bit from that article which I want to quote :
    What that means is that by the time they have a vaccine it will not be the same disease, this is the same reason that flu vaccines are only partially effective and often don't work.
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    And yes there comes a point where the odds are not too distorted by the close proximity captive environment of air travel but that's still some way off, air travel will remain a major issue for a while.
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    When it first broke in Wuhan I saw a video where a Chinese man did not allow another Chinese man to approach their village. That was quite disturbing to me as it showed me how afraid people could get. :(
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    My wife and I regularly buy about 12 loaves of bread every fortnight during the cold weather.
    We have a small extra chest freezer for things like this, pizza, ice cream etc.
    Saves popping to the shops.
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    Fair enough I think everyone should have a chest freezer, would love to have one in the Phils but while I used to keep bread in the freezer long ago I don't think I'd be doing it now, my point was that it is hard to stockpile bread and empty shelves mean that people are stockpiling :D

    The point of stockpiling is that it allows to you reduce the amount of time that you might spend in social contact with others in the supermarket, if you can reduce supermarket visits from once a week to once a fortnight then you have succeeded in reducing your exposure, particularly if everyone else in your family has similarly reduced their contact with outsiders in other areas of their lives.

    But as has been pointed out it is hard to do that, personally I can't because I have to work, sales and management people in my work travel a lot, so I am exposed to all of their contacts.

    The only purpose of containment now is to reduce the peak of the infection graph, to do that the Chinese took drastic measures and those measures appear to have worked, and even for them there is the danger of their country being reinfected from abroad.
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    Seen in Asda yesterday:

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    I did buy 15 kg of Basmati Rice but I didn't have to stockpile anything else because I have more than a months worth of really nice food already cooked and sitting in my freezer.

    I already had a lot of pasta enough for about 70 portions, and I have 15 pasta meals currently frozen, made fresh by me so my own ready meals as such.

    edit: I should add that I generally have about 20kg of rice in the house every few months, I had actually run out and was really just replenishing my normal stock.

    10kg was from Lidl and I must admit to being disappointed with it after decanting some into a container, nowhere near as clean as my usual Akash brand, not cooked any of it yet.
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    Nobody wants to buy it :D

    Unfortunate brand name, it'll likely suffer unconscious bias just because of that :D
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    If they really have managed to keep real cases that low, then I'm impressed and it might be best for me personally to still travel to the Phils in April, at least if they are still allowing passengers originating in the UK access to the country by that time.

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