You appear to be now agreeing with me or I have misread your response or you mine. Wearing a seat belt etc is law but people still choose to circumvent it in many ways on a daily basis I see it every day in my work. You say you've not been out much! Well done, have you been explicitly told not to as you suggest these poor deceased should of been No you haven't you've took the information made available and made you're decisions. These people like you over many months have been given information and same rules you have chosen a course of action they another sadly paid with their lives. To blame the messenger is wrong or perhaps you could blame them because your leccy bill is higher because you have made the decision to stay home.
Have you read Dr Aseem Malhotra’s book? Probably not. Diet or rather a poor diet compromises the immune system. Again, read his book. So with a compromised immune system the individual is then susceptible to the extremes you refer to. It’s very simple. To spell it out a bit more clearly. The right diet does not prevent anybody catching the virus. It prevents the individual from being seriously affected by it. We have known this for almost a year now. This relationship between the right diet and an optimal immune system is not new. The problem has been that people have lost their way on what constitutes the right diet. His book explains. Save me tapping it out page by page on the forum. It’s only about £6.00
That's blame the victim and let's get Darwinian and say it's evolution in action. The people being blamed here would likely have lived potentially decades of healthy enough life when faced with the known challenges from the typical annual virus seasons of years gone by. This thing is novel and poof people are being dropping dead because they are not fit enough to breath through sticky goo, I've had viral pneumonia before during a bad flu season it was not fun but I never felt like I was drowning, the kind of pneumonia that people are suffering as a result of SARS-CoV-2 is not a standard pneumonia, fluid on the lungs, it's quite different and I would bet that everyone who has survived this illness has been impaired in some way, I think the notion that people can get it and be fine is way overoptimistic.
No I disagree with your point that the government cannot be held accountable, it is quite clear that many other governments handled this far better than ours, and right up to the present decisions are still being made too late.
That was the essence of the Good Morning interview the other day. Who is to blame. Who was to blame for those who died of lung cancer? The smoker or the government and the NHS? Opinion is conflicting in both cases.
I have posted this before. If anyone cares to listen to it all, it explains. In depth. It parallels his book. It cites studies and reports which I have already posted on here. More than once. It’s all there for those that care to read it. Matt Hancock has a copy. He knows.
Or the advertisers and the tobacco industry, there came a point where knowledge placed a burden of responsibility on the government to act, and they prevaricated for a long long time, still are, the NHS cannot be held responsible for being unable to cure an incurable disease, just like it can't be held responsible for the death of AIDS patients, the NHS deals in immediate reality with the resources it has available, the government on the other hand can and does become responsible when it fails to act on clear evidence. Are you and I responsible for climate change, yes we are active participants in a society based on fossil fuels, is the government responsible for climate change, yes because it has the power to legislate for solutions and failure to legislate is tacit agreement with the status quo. The government has a duty to protect its citizens, be it from foreign or domestic aggression, and yes to protect citizens from novel diseases. What are we going to do the next time Yersinia pestis decides to do the rounds, just sit back and watch 30% of the population die, wave our hands in the air and say oh dear nothing we can do or do we expect a government to enforce proper disease control measures, this lot wanted to take the easy route from day one.
S You don’t seem to want to know the truth about all of this. I understand how people are confused by what they have been told in the past. So having been told what are the likely factors affecting susceptibility to the worst effects of Covid 19, who is to blame if the message is ignored? I don’t understand why you continually contest all of this. It is such a waste of your time and mine. It is really odd when all around you and all around the country, everybody is waking up to all of this. If you want to see data, I have already given it to you and you have already acknowledged it and acknowledged it’s relevance. Why ask for it again? The worst aspect is that it undermines any benefit anyone else might get. Privately you conceded that CICO has nothing to do with weight loss. I notice you have not once said that in the open forum. That is odd. I posted this video once before. Again , it is well worth listening too, all the way through. Best do that than continue argueing. If you really feel it’s a load of tosh, why not engage with the guy through social media. He is quite amenable. Explain to him the laws of thermodynamics and food. I am sure he will give you some guidance.
That's revisionist, I agree with you that what you say works in the context in which it was originally presented re weight control and I agree with why it works but I also proved that it is because on that diet you still consume fewer calories than you burn and that was from a re-quote of words of a doctor in one of the videos you yourself posted who stated exactly that. There is a hell of a difference in agreeing that this all works for metabolic illnesses like diabetes and for losing weight, and then trying to hold it up as an olive branch cure-all for the results of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. You might be right but you are pushing this as the only solution as if it is proven that this prevents covid deaths and I'm sorry but that is a big step on from the claims of efficacy against diabetes heart disease etc. which I concede you have lots of good evidence for. edit: the laws of thermodynamics is a pedantic physics point which I was arguing for the physics not in any context of Covid or even regards weight loss, I was arguing the physics, nothing else. It would be like your response if I was making the statement that the centre of the earth were stone cold over and over. edit 2: I'm not quoting from Private Messages but I would refer you to the page 4 Jason Fung video Part 2 that you posted and my immediate reply to that one with the point he made at 35 seconds. edit 3: in this recent exchange where I am talking about government responsibility and letting them off the hook, what do we say to so many of those who have died where there was obesity and the other co-morbidities those who died last March, April, May and June and who would never have had time to make a difference to their situation through change of diet, what do we say to the person who would have to lose 50 pounds to get anywhere near a BMI of barely 30 which is still too high. I suspect we are saying tough luck mate. edit 4: (sorry too many edits) and what do we say to the many who had no other complications or body mass issues who would have no reason to change diet who also died in the last 12 months.
Your dislike for Boris has been noted over many months but that aside, If government issue advice then one makes decisions based on that advice you do it, I do it and I am sure your flag waving mate does it! But the government cannot be held to account If the government pass law then most adhere to it, some dont, some drink/drug drive if caught we punish etc. Yes countries have handled this epidemic in different ways, as they have handled the purchase of the vaccine in different ways!
I liked Boris Johnson's TV personality the act he portrayed on the likes of Have I got News for You, however I can distinguish the act from the reality and the reality is that he is unfit for the role he coveted so much. He paid an unwanted visit to Scotland this week, you don't get the visceral distaste that so many Scots have for politicians like Johnson and he appears to not realise that he is being viewed as Thatcher was viewed, you maybe don't get it but it is people like them that are directly responsible for the support for independence that has done nothing but grow for the last 40 years. Everyone I know that I have spoken too back home is way happier with the Scottish government's handling of the Covid pandemic than they are with Westminster's handling of it. There we go, having a dig at the EU Ten months ago mid March 2020:
It took me a while but John is referring to Professor Ashton's views on Vapers where he used the term in a diatribe to classify a group of people, "Obsessive compulsive abusive onanist with ecig tendencies." This was back in September 2014.
