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Panic Buying

Discussion in 'Life in the UK' started by Heathen, Sep 24, 2021.

  1. walesrob
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    Was speaking with a retired fuel depot manager today, and he said this was bound to happen. Over the years, work was contracted out to the cheapest bidder, job benefits cut and depots moved or shut down. The contractors would squeeze the pay so only Europeans would do the work. Now the Europeans are gone, they’ll need to raise wages. It just proves the country has been relying on cheap labour from abroad for too long, and the greedy employers have gotten their comeuppance. What shocked me was that tanker drivers are on £40k. For the responsibility of carrying that lethal cargo, I’d want a bit more than that.
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  2. bigmac
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    should lorry drivers be paid the same as train drivers ?
  3. Druk1
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    £54k a year average for a train driver.
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  4. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    do you think lorry drivers are worth more ?
  5. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    I think you like trains ;)
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  6. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    i think driving a train is a damn site easier than a LGV.
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  7. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    I would think so :) Hasn't there just been a train derailed in the States yesterday with several passangers dead?
  8. PorkAdobo
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    I agree with the comment before that virtually all professions can (and do) spin their publicity to make it seem like they are undervalued and essential. Nurses, teachers, police and even barristers claim they are on the poverty line.

    With regards to HGV drivers, for sure there is a skill involved. Manoeuvring those hulking trucks cannot be an easy thing. However, I would assume it's a skill that can easily be taught? It's not a God given talent that someone like George Best was born with. When new drivers are learning the ropes, what is the failure rate like?

    I'm somewhat surprised at the shortage of drivers. If I was single, it's something I would have definitely investigated in my younger days. Seems like hard but financially rewarding work for thousands of young men and women who have no commitments at home. And whilst skill is certainly involved, to my untrained eyes it is nothing that time and practice can't solve.

    As with many of the "crises" from the past year such as in hospitality and fruit picking, I'm baffled that the industries were not using the previous year to prepare as even Blind Freddie could see which way the wind was blowing.
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  9. aposhark
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  10. aposhark
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    There's the rub.
    Hgv driving has not attracted young people.
    Most of them would rather have a cushier life; they know it is not easy so they take easier options.
    The average age of a UK HGV driver is 55 :eek:
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  11. aposhark
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    They used to get paid a lot more but Hoyer and similar companies undercut companies like Shell.
    So the fuel haulage companies started losing drivers.
  12. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    What is flowing through this problem?
    What is important?
    IMO, pay and conditions.
    When Joe Public doesn't get full supermarket shelves or fuel to drive to work they panic like hell.
  13. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Someone has started a rumour " there is a shortage of jobs!"
    Now everyone is rushing out to get one:lol:
  14. bigmac
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    actually--with all the job vacancies it wont be too long before benefits will get cut. Got to pay for all that 80% furlough pay somehow.
  15. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    People will say " oh you drive a truck"
    Then there are those drivers who
    Discharge fuel on the forecourt
    Load and discharge powder tankers
    Load and discharge bulk liquid tankers
    Carry livestock
    Carry hazardous goods
    Those that deliver into major cities like London
    Those car delivery boys
    Those farm collection tankers for your milk
    Etc etc
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  16. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    And 1% are under the age of 25
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  18. aposhark
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    The Filipino drivers that find work in Canada will be impressed with full sets of "susies" (suspended air and electric lines between tractor units and trailers). I didn't see many susies in the Philippines when I looked. :eek:
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  19. bigmac
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    i recall when i was at grammar school in birmingham--early 60's --a fuel tanker blew up. i heard it.
  20. aposhark
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    Sorry to add this story, Malcolm, but it was part of my life back then........I saw a gas tanker blow up near San Carlos de la Rapita in Spain, from a few kilometres away back in 1978.
    I saw the ball of fire then heard the bang when I was installing an aerial on a ship's mast in the harbour nearby.
    It was horrific - we had a couple of beers in the Los Alfaques campsite bar earlier in that week.
    215 people lost their lives and many more had severe burns.

    I remember the church bells tolling as if it was yesterday.

    We were all young men and carried on.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Alfaques_disaster
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