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Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Marian, Jan 8, 2016.

  1. Marian
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    Marian New Member

    Hello! Im obviously new here and been in this site of a couple of minutes now. Reading about this and that. Most of the time saying "Ooooh I see.." in some information I found useful. So yeah, I'm a filipina and my man lives in England. We've met by 2013 (online) and haven't seen him in person since then. He's half Romanian and half Italian. And is residing in England. Have a house of his own and also a stable job. He wanted me to visit him and planning to tie the knot upon my visit (expenses would be payed by him) and now, we were wondering what visa should I get. I've done nothing yet (by means of getting/having this and that) except doing some research. Yes, I've also tried to get hold of some agencies and by the time I read some conversations here, I doubt I would be seeking help from them I again. Any advises from whoever is reading this would be so much appreciated.
    Marian xx
  2. ChoiAndJohn
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    ChoiAndJohn Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Welcome to the forum.
    Reading your post, it seems that you haven't met in person even once? Is that correct?
  3. Marian
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    Marian New Member

    Yes.
  4. ChoiAndJohn
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    ChoiAndJohn Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Unless you have met in person you will not be able to apply for a 'marriage' visa to come to the UK and marry. I strongly suggest that you encourage the guy to come to the Philippines and visit you and make sure you spend a lot of time together before you even consider getting married. Making that sort of decision when you have never met in person is a huge mistake.
  5. Marian
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    Marian New Member

    I know it sounds ridiculous for others, but we're madly in love. You can tell whether a person is genuine or not. And base on my experience with him, he's in his 100%. You can never say that loving someone online is a stupid thing to do in this century. It's not that we would get married instantly of course I would want to spend more time with him first. It's still undecided. And im not really searching for any love advise really I just need help. He can't visit Philippines because of work. So he wanted me to visit instead.
  6. ChoiAndJohn
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    ChoiAndJohn Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Well. Your only option is to try and get a tourist visa to visit. You will have to show genuine and compelling reason for you to return to the Philippines. Good luck.
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  7. Marian
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    Marian New Member

    Thank you so much. I just wanted to know my options. But I would try to persuade him. I also think that it would be necessary. I appreciated your hint of concern really. And i'm sorry if I came out a bit harsh. xx
  8. ChoiAndJohn
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    PS. I'm sorry that I'm offering unwanted advice here but I'll say it anyways and have done with it.

    1. Its unwise to believe that you can know someone well enough to commit to being married on the basis of never meeting in person.

    2. I seriously doubt that it's true that he can't visit you 'because of work' over the past few years. It doesn't sound right to me.

    3. What nationality is his passport? To be honest, I have doubts that a half-Romanian living in the UK would own his own house and not be able to visit you. It doesn't ring true for me.

    I won't say anymore about it. But I seriously advise you to be very careful. Good luck.
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  9. Marian
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    Marian New Member

    Yes I know, I get your point. Nationality is Romanian. There would be also proofs that he owns the house where he stays. I'll be careful, yes. And i've been thinking of your advise. I'll try to persuade xx
  10. ChoiAndJohn
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    Romanian citizens have only been able to work without restriction in the UK since 2014. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25565302
    I believe that before that, a work permit had to be applied for since Romania joined the EU in 2007. Bear in mind that Romania is one of the poorest countries in the EU.

    I would make sure that you are very clear that this person indeed works and owns a house in the UK. I feel that its very unlikely that he owns his own house outright. I suggest that you make very sure that he can prove via documentation that he earns more than £18,600 per year, otherwise you are unlikely to get a spouse or marriage visa due to the income requirement.

    I'm sorry that I sound so negative, but my wife has known several trusting Filipina women that have been lied to over the web.

    If I was you, I would insist that he visits you in the Philippines without delay. If the man is genuine, he will find a way to make it happen. I once flew to the Philippines for a weekend. There is no reason why he can't visit you for a 3 day trip if he can't manage the time off work.
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  11. Marian
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    Marian New Member

    So let's say he would come here for three days, would that make any difference for the visa?
  12. ChoiAndJohn
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    It is essential you have met in person.

    In order to apply for a 'marriage' visa (to come to the UK and marry) you will need to prove that you have met at least once and that you have a genuine relationship.

    I would suggest that you will need to present some of the following (this is not a complete list - I am not an immigration advisor). I also am not entirely clear about how you would apply given that he is not a British Citizen. However as a rule of thumb you will need things like:

    1. Proof that you have met.
    Photographs of you both together.
    Photographs of you both with your family would help.
    Passport entry stamps. Airline tickets.

    2. Proof that your relationship is genuine.
    Letters, cards
    Evidence of phone calls and communication in the past.
    Engagement ring receipt.
    Documentation about plans made for a wedding in the UK

    3. Evidence about accommodation.
    Title deed for the house.
    Details of the size of the house or a property survey to ensure it meets the space requirements.
    Proof of residence such as a council tax bill.

    4. Evidence about income
    Proof that he meets the income requirement of a mimumum of £18,600 as shown in Appendix FM-SE. This may include tax information, payslips, bank statements

    5. Your information
    Your passport. Birth Certificate. CENOMAR certificate.

    6. His information
    His Passport.
    Letter of introduction from sponsor.

    7. Payment of the fee
    Visa fee for marriage I think is about £800 but I'm sure someone else will comment on that. @Methersgate or @bigmac have recently applied.
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    Hope this is helpful
  13. KeithAngel
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    Whilst I agree completely with your general direction John all poor nations have very well off people living in them additionally if he is Romanian or Italian there is no income requirement at all, presuming he is legally resident, and if they were married the Wife could come for free
  14. Anon04576
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    No disagreement there Keith and as you state, Johns direction is also for me correct. The marriage consideration or indeed the visit being instigated by the young lady isn't right. In order to clarify the genuiness of this relationship he should visit her. Not only to establish a genuine relationship and possible requirement but mainly for her own safety and security. It's paramount regardless of any love interest.
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  15. Marian
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    I've seen this one already and decided not to include marriage visa on our options because the fact that we haven't met yet. Tourist visa is and option, I don't know if a visitor visa will be or if there is any possible visa to get
  16. Marian
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    Marian New Member

    Does me going there not applies as meeting in person? I'm a bit confuse..
  17. ChoiAndJohn
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    I'm sorry let me be a bit clearer. You can't apply to come to the UK under 'marriage' visa unless you've met the man in person. You could try and come to the UK as a 'tourist' and of course then, you would have met in person. However you would still have to leave the UK and go back to the Phils and then apply for a 'marriage' visa then (because you can't come to the UK on a tourist visa and get married). Frankly, because its a lot easier for him to visit the Phils than you for you to come to the UK, that's why I say that you should get him to visit you in the Phils.

    If you do want to come to the UK as a 'tourist' then you have to present evidence that you will return to the Phils at the end of your stay. Things that tend to convince the authorities of your intent to return would include a full time job in the Phils, children in school, you being enrolled in a degree course in the Phils, or perhaps a business that needed you present.

    What I said about income was wrong - the other guys have it right - the income requirement doesn't apply because he's Romanian and not British I forgot about that.
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  18. bigmac
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    no--not possible. you can NOT get married here in the UK on a visit visa.!!

    you could apply for a general visit visa--with him as your sponsor. But you must supply clear and convincing proof you have a real reason to return to the philippines. at least then you will have evidence that you have met in person. but thats just stage one of an expensive process.

    good luck--visit visas are cheap--but very often refused.
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  19. bigmac
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    its somewhat higher than that---cost me just over £1000 last month.
  20. ChoiAndJohn
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    ChoiAndJohn Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I do see your point Keith. But I feel suspicious because of the fact that there has been no visit for three years. There's just something about that, that feels 'off' to me. I hope I'm wrong.
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