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A million skilled EU workers see their future outside Britain

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by KeithAngel, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    There is no it to as
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  2. oss
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    The people in work at any point in time pay the tax and NI contributions that allow the government to pay for all of the people who are retired, that is how it works.

    When you die before state pension age you simply save the government from ever having to pay you anything, no one else gets more because you happened to die.

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    Many people die before state pension age but at least today we have something to look forward to if we would like a rest, no one compels you to give up working if you really want to although your employer may prefer that you go at state pension age so they can employ a younger fresher mind or body, so you might end up changing to some other kind of work after retirement age if you still want to work.

    The point is that you are not compelled to keep working after state pension age, this proposal from what I assume is a Tory think tank compels you to work long after the age you were expecting to have to work.

    I have to work to age 66, when I started working I expected to work to age 65, this proposal would appear to suggest an increase of 9 years from the current age I can expect to retire, they propose doing it over 16 years that means I can probably expect an increase of one or two years on my state retirement age of 66, that's £20,000 taken from my pension planning just like that.

    This will never float even with Tory voters too many of them will feel robbed.
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  3. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    those of us obstinate b'stards that stay alive longer.
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  4. oss
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    :) Indeed!
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    Britain is seen as a haven for health tourists who know that GPs and hospitals will not bill them for any health care they receive. Millions is owed by these chancers including, apparently, a certain 43 year old Nigerian woman who owes £500,000 after going into labour shortly after her arrival in UK and some three months before her due date.

    I have experienced no problems getting treatment from the NHS during my visits as a pensioner whose UK address is in west Wales.
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  6. Druk1
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    NHS tourism costs us a fortune every year,i remember the filipina with the heart complaint on a TV program who came here as a "tourist" and a few days later needed a heart op,i also know a lady who brought her dad from the PI for the same sort of thing.
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    1 in 7 babies born in the UK receive neonatal care as a result of premature birth, figures of £20,000 a week per infant are widely quoted regards this case, but it is not easy to find corroboration for these numbers.

    If true then mothers receive a hell of a benefit from the NHS.
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    Oh absolutely, no question about it. But the NHS is currently owed over £150 million for the current year in respect of treating foreign patients. For some reason, NHS Trusts will not seek payment from visitors and some, so I read, won't even record the details on European patients' EHIC cards.

    Here medical staff are just that: they treat patients and it is left up to ward and surgery/health centre admin staff to check that each and every patient is either a citizen and therefore entitled to free health care. has an EHIC card (in which case the issuing authority is billed), or possesses a certificate of entitlement, health insurance or a credit card. In the absence of any of these things, the patient will only be stabilised. Health care funding for British Pensioners comes from the DWP who, I'm told, are pretty good about making prompt payments and this country remits its healthcare invoices within days of a patient's discharge. The NHS here is closely modelled on our NHS prior to the advent of Trusts.
  9. John Surrey
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    Bit late here... but as I remember it the trick was to work through ltd or other self emp vehicle and see how long it took the tax man to catch up with you... then Polish Pete the Plumber would return home... if they had sufficient cash start a business at home... if they didn't try again later using a different ltd etc.
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  10. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Or then is the other trick of leasing a trademark from your off shore company for a vast fee and therefor not making a profit (or paying tax)in the UK I wonder who makes the most? The EU is about to make law that all EU linked tax havens must publish their benificerys on an open to all register whats not to like unless your a crook(tory)
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    CatchFriday British Expat living in Alicante, Spain

    That is the reason that we are leaving the EU - nothing to do with immigration or anything else - just Aaron Banks not wanting to tell the EU where his money is - that is why he hired Cambridge Analytica - Nigel Forage also doesn't want to reveal where his money is.........
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