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A million skilled EU workers see their future outside Britain

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by KeithAngel, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    before you sold ice cream and I assume dispense it, did you know you could?
  2. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    Hatton garden crew?o_O
  3. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    a skill i trained for --took about 3 minutes.

    i also trained myself to be a chef. easy--once i was shown how to fry an egg.

    becoming an estate agent took a bit longer--about a week.
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  4. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Getting the dole is not an easy option, apart from anything else it is becoming harder and hard to qualify under the new Universal Credit scheme.

    It is a level playing field and you are never going to see those million unemployed go away that number is close to being structural in this economy.

    You currently have people revolving through unemployment continuously that 1.3 million are never all the same people however there will be some permanently unemployed like my old friend Smith (deceased).
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  5. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    says a lot doesn't it in terms of some will say I can't do that but how do they know.
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  6. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    needs must when you need the rent.
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  7. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I agree getting universal credit isn't easy and it should in my opinion be worked for.
    it isn't a level playing field at all and our systems don't help it be one.
    Yes I am aware there will always be a moving unemployed workforce but by ensuring with a bit of hard work form filling we can get as much or more on the benefits system than working then the field will be uneven
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  8. oss
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    I used the Dole long time ago here is my record, I had my first job age 15 which is why the numbers work out as they do.

    Without it I could have become a bum who contributed nothing instead of the 42 years I have contributed, have a look at the third image that's my NI contribution last year.

    edit: many of my earlier NI years I paid a lot more than that.

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    These are the gaps in my record.

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    And here are the details


    Last years numbers this is NI contributions alone.

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  9. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Your not alone
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  10. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    That really cheeses me off - I have seen it in warehouses too.
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  11. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Yes I know :)
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  12. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    my point exactly, if others can go and find work to pay the rent why can't others?
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  13. Daveyw1988
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    Didn't know you could check that online
  14. walesrob
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    walesrob Administrator Staff Member

    I'm taking the logical and common sense route here Jim. I could easily say I asked 10 people if they eat bacon sandwiches, and using the methodology you describe, I'm confident that translates as 10 million eat bacon sandwiches. It certainly is a divisive science, and you wonder why people are sceptical and suspicious of these so called surveys.
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  15. walesrob
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    I check my NI contributions online on a yearly basis, and I've only got 5 more years of contributions before I'm entitled to full state pension. Only problem is I can't claim till I'm 67, which is 17 years away. So any NI contributions after the 5 years make zero difference to the amount of state pension I will be entitled to. I fully expect the age limit to rise anyway, so I foresee 69 or 70 being a more realistic age. I suppose this is what happens when people live longer.
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  16. bigmac
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    dont be surprised if the state pension becomes a means tested benefit by then.
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  17. graham59
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    I should be ok in my jungle hut then. :D
  18. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    i wouldnt go that far--probably find state pensions will only be paid to full time UK residents
  19. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Mark im really shocked that you agree with this post , a man of your expertise should know better:lol::lol::lol:
  20. graham59
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    I doubt it... but not going to worry about it. I can always return home and cost the British taxpayer a lot MORE money. :like:

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