Visa advice please

A chap in another world posted them a couple of years ago. I cant remember the source. It must have been the UKBA. So the odds are in your favour for these visas. But it is still possible to get turned down as some do. Seans ( Kuyas ) wifes application failed until she appealed.

I have seen a few cases where applications for Fiancee or Spouse visas have been turned down erroneously.

Yes. No discretion there.

Turned down on what grounds, do you know?

Worst case scenario, you lose a few hundred quid for a visit visa

eh ? can you expand on that Timmers ? isnt a visit visa about £ 90---?

With a visit visa it depends on which country you are applying from, it was over £300 a pop when the Mrs applied from Dubai, Philippines is cheaper I think.

If the financial stuff is ok, and we have 10 months of online proof and 11 days of photos from Morocco, plus wedding plans, is there anything else we can get refused on? For fiancee visa I mean?

Heres a for instance. The ECO might perceive, either rightly or wrongly that the evidence for the relationship being ongoing and subsisting is inadequate. He then may or may not refuse the visa. This might also depend on the strength of the rest of the evidence. A weak area of the application might not be enough to end up as a refusal but a couple of weak areas added together might. Its at the ECOs discretion.

Accomodation for you both in the UK.
A poorly constructed submission.
Unacceptable English Language Test provider.

Are there any issues, potentially with divorce or annullment?

Not telling the truth on the application form can lead to refusal.

Age of the applicant.....

Basically we don't know what goes on inside the case officers head or how they are briefed so we try to give them over and above what they ask for, this way there is more chance of a successful visa application. You must look into every detail of your application.

Accommodation is fine, and he won't fail the English test. What do you mean by a 'poorly constructed submission'?

Yes. And in neon lights too.

One where you evidently have a good case but you dont put your case across very well or very clearly. They go on your documentation. If it isnt up to scratch then because that is all they see, then they might refuse.

For example regarding the accommodation, you may submit a survey showing how many rooms you have, photos of all the rooms, mortgage or tenancy agreement, if tenancy agreement then 6 months has to be remaining on it. Letter from landlord stating another person can live there, council tax bills, utility bills, it goes on and on. It all has to be there and in order.

In Kuyas case I seem to recall that the ECO deemed his wife / gf had selected the wrong financial category. When she clearly hadnt.

Yes. A good example. It may well be that all of this is the case but you have to convince them, with suitable evidence as Timmers says.

So as our ultimate goal is to be together longterm anyway, the fiancee visa seems the most sensible option? I just don't like how long it takes And if it gets refused then what :/

the longest it can take for a decision is 6 months. but whats that when compared to--hopefully--the rest of your lives together?

but--in practice--expect to wait half that length--and if you are refused--the reason has to be stated--and then you can appeal.

for what its worth--my fiancee and i have been in a relationship over 2 and a 1/2 years now--including living together ( here )--on 2 occasions--totalling about a year. we are hoping she can join me--on a fiancee visa--in the new year.

Be positive, it will not be declined if you do your homework and ask questions here

If we get the fiancee visa is he free to go back there and come back here as much as he wants? I sort of feel like going for the visit visa first will just be prolonging the agony - we already want to be together longterm. But then I think that as we've only spent one short period of time together it might add weight to the fiancee application if we add another visit first. Isn't it hard to know what to do?

It varies. Ours just took 2 weeks. For some it has taken less. And others up to 3 months. Somewhere across that range is normal.

I think they like to keep their applicants guessing and sweating.