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Filipino medical staff leaving due to UK cock-up

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Drunken Max, Oct 2, 2018.

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Should foreign nurses with children be able to claim for Child Benefit?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Drunken Max
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    Drunken Max Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    This is exactly the same for UK citizens in the EU. You are treated like a local so if the locals pay or contribute, so do you. Same goes for child benefit.
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  2. Markham
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    Markham Guest

    Re-reading my reply, I can see why you thought that. Ooops, sorry! Filipino spouses are unlikely to be involved in an SRRV application since a 13(a) is both cheaper and less restrictive, of course.

    When I mentioned Filipino spouses earlier, I was actually thinking about Quota Visas since this is the only type of Visa that does not depend on the whims and fancies of a spouse or an employer or, indeed, require a substantial bank deposit for which one must pay an annual "inspection fee" which often exceeds the interest credited. Once granted, it is really rather difficult to have such a (Quota) Visa rescinded.

    You mentioned that you consider obtaining Extensions and the three-yearly "Visa Run" to be "onerous". Well they needn't be: you could employ an agent to obtain your Extensions at six month intervals - something many of the lazier ex-pats do (btw: I am certainly not suggesting you're lazy!). And is a shopping trip to Hong Kong or Singapore - or a couple of nights in the refreshingly cool mountain air of the Cameron Highlands (where, incidentally, they grow the best tea you'll ever taste) - really "onerous"?

    I rather suspect that you may discover that working in the Philippines will be far more onerous re the demands of officialdom.
  3. oss
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    Quota visa appears to be 50 per year per country that has diplomatic relations with the Phils, at first glance it does look a lot cheaper I will read up some more on it.

    I would likely start out on the extensions and visa run in fact I probably would not stay out of the UK for stints longer than three months in the first year of retirement.

    I don't like the idea of agents as I expect key documents like passport would have to be in their hands and I don't fancy that, but yes I am lazy, laziness is a virtue as some say it is the father of invention and is certainly a trait shared by most good programmers and inventors and that will no doubt drive my eventual decision on which route or routes to take.

    I would certainly like to see Hong Kong and Singapore at some point never been to either, not a tea drinker though and not even much of a coffee drinker either these days.

    Regards working it could be as little as a couple of days a week and while I would be better paid than the locals it would not be a fortune, my friend (a Brit) has built a fairly large and successful company at this point and has the HR people to handle the majority of the official stuff, although I guess I would have to get a TIN and probably have to file a tax return but I've been in the BIR at tax return time before so I know what that's like sheer pandemonium :)

    The 'work' plan would only happen if I decided to do all this earlier than 5 or 6 years from now, although I would quite likely still like to work a little over there, even after I retire, at least as long as I am fit to do so.
  4. Markham
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    Whilst that is true, in practice just about all the available Quota Visas go to fixers one of which would see you safely through the process. For a fee, of course! :) But I do think that would be the best Visa for you as it will give you greater flexibility.

    The agent would only retain your Passport for as long as it takes for him to get your Extension from BoI - two working days max. And that's the only document he's likely to need from you - apart from your signed authority for him to act on your behalf and the Extension application form.

    Both are highly recommended. A trip that Mae and I had planned as our honeymoon but not able to take (baby got in the way!) was fly from Davao to Singapore, stay a night in Raffles then catch the night sleeper to Kuala Lumpur and take the bus to Georgetown, Penang. After a few days, fly back to Kuala Lumpur and spend 2 or 3 days at Fraser's Hill in the Cameron Highlands before returning to KL to fly home via Singapore. Not a cheap trip but well worth every penny.

    An American friend, a former marine who used to work for Microsoft and Cisco, married to a Filipina and living in Cebu is the regional manager for an Australian company that manufactures rubber treads for caterpillar tractors. His company employed an immigration lawyer to get him his work visa, work permit/DOLE clearance and the whole process took the best part of six months. He's now in the process of transferring to a 13(a) Visa which will protect him should anything untoward happen workwise.

    One thing you may wish to check is whether a Quota Visa would permit you to work, I think it does just as a 13(a) does. That would allow you to work at home and earn money but you'd still require the DOLE clearance to take a job in a company.
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    My friend is aware of what's needed to get clearance for foreign employees as he went through it himself about 12 years ago when he first started working for the Frenchman who had started a software development outsourcing business there back in 2000.

    This was the same French chap that I trained up on the factory ERP system that we put into a new factory in Batangas 20 years ago and who went on to see that reversing the direction of the systems support could be profitable.

    Had it not been for that young French lad my connection with the Philippines would likely have ended after the custom development work and deployment of that ERP system.
  6. Bootsonground
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    I have a few friends with Quota visa`s..One of them designs, builds and manages call centers from the ground up..
    His company organised his visa about 12 years ago..
    On average between my friends here, the costs via agents etc average around 200K.
    I`m not sure now but I was told because of the stand off between Du30 and Immigration none are being issued because of the obvious corruption issues involved.
    Who knows anything for a fact when dealing with R.P Gov. offices?
    The good news is that since DU30,the ACR card is now valid for 5 years. (same as driving licences)
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  7. Bootsonground
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    Bootsonground Guest

    Yeah it does..Same with 13a.

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