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Filipino medical staff leaving due to UK cock-up

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Drunken Max, Oct 2, 2018.

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Should foreign nurses with children be able to claim for Child Benefit?

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  2. No

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  1. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    3 seperate threads on this now.
  2. Markham
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    Unless you will be holding a SRRV (retirement visa) there is no need for you to register for (Philippine) Tax. I am kind of assuming that you'll be a perennial tourist, getting Extensions every six months and doing the 'visa run' every 30 months or so - which is precisely how most unmarried ex-pats live; no TIN necessary! Keep your money outside the country and remit - as a cash pickup - as and when you need it, would be my advice.
  3. Markham
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    Can you not combine them, Paul? And this section is not an ideal repository for this discussion which is borderline political.
  4. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I've considered the SRRV it is a possibility, I am not good at dealing with bureaucracy and the permanent tourist thing does not appeal to me.

    Pension income from whatever source is not currently taxed in the Philippines, if the state pension is paid outside the UK it would come under the dual taxation agreement and therefore be non taxable in the Philippines.

    It is my understanding that private pension companies will not pay out to an overseas account so one has no choice but to maintain a UK bank account to which any regular payments or withdrawals are made.

    That Private pension income is Taxable in the UK, removing the state pension from the equation should keep me in a position where I can draw just less than my personal allowance from my funds more or less forever thus remaining completely free of tax on all my pensions.

    I will of course consult a tax and pension specialist before I do anything but I am still 6 years from doing any of this anyway.
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Only the honest ones though!
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  7. Markham
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    Jim, if you don't relish dealing with bureaucracy, don't even consider a SRRV! For about the same cost - or less if one takes into consideration the sizeable cash deposit required for a SRRV - you should look into obtaining a quota visa. These do cost money - a friend of mine paid Php150,000 for his a few years ago - but give considerable freedom and security - you're not reliant on remaining on good terms with a spouse (or their family and friends) for your tenure and you can come and go pretty much as you please (BoI Alien Control Officers can impose unwritten restrictions on the frequency and duration of trips abroad with non-quota visas).

    You can become "non-resident for tax purposes" upon application to HMRC which only affects their ability to tax you (and any tax paid on your behalf by, say, a pensions provider can be reclaimed quickly and simply online) but your ability to visit and remain in the UK will be severely restricted.
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    I personally didnt regard this as being political, Its all very well saying they unknowingly broke the rules, but there has to be a certain level of common sense surely ?, this couple have a child born in the UK, and are apparently not allowed child benefit, thats the rues so be it, on the other hand a family can come from Europe, i believe they can claim Child benefit almost immediately, or they can come here leave their children in europe, and still claim Child benefit, (Thats as i understand it but am open to correction) again you may say its the rules, can most of you say hand on heart thats entirely fair ?.
    As for those that say we need to train our OWN, thats all very well, but first of all they need to want to be in the medical profession, its not the easiest of professions to be in, and needs a certain type of person, the hours can be very anti social, and the stress could be unbearable at times, thats not forgetting in some cases they have peoples lives in their hands, as i say it needs a certain kind of person..
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  9. menchu_edge
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  10. Anon04576
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    One has to assume that UKVI seen the outgoing payments for child benefit but did not see those same payments being reimbursed.
  11. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    SRRV is one time bureaucracy, it's a lifetime visa and exempts you from BI requirements, I've read SRRV-Info-Guide-04.14.15 and it seems less onerous than the continual extensions and visa run route.

    How would an SRRV holder be reliant on remaining on good terms with a spouse?

    I have other options, I have a willing sponsor who would be happy to sponsor me to work there teaching part time (IT various disciplines) in a few years time, as I said I will review all this closer to the time.
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  13. Bootsonground
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    No need to be married with a Filipino to apply for or receive an SRRV. (or a 13b visa)
    You might be thinking of the 13a visa?
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    Applying for a Work Permit in the Philippines




    edit by oss : sorry removed your link as my antivirus reported a trojan at the other end.
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  15. Bootsonground
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    Personally,I have no sympathy as the R.P offer`s no reciprocal benefit rights for Brits in their country.. (apart from tax and pensions which I do not consider a "benefit")
    In actual fact,foreigners in the R.P have practically ZERO rights and 100% ZERO benefits!
    The Phil. Gov. even want us to pay 17K per year for Phil heath..They can stuff it!
    Your point about EU citizens will hopefully be a moot point very very soon.
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  16. CatchFriday
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    CatchFriday British Expat living in Alicante, Spain

    This is because the UK charges the same amount to Filipinos who are coming to the UK and require NHS care.
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  17. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I very much doubt that. The Philippines charge everyone for health and will leave children to die on the street if their parents have no money.
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  18. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I know that, I was asking Markham why he thought a Filipino spouse would be involved in an SRRV application.
  19. oss
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    I'm aware of the rules, my friend runs a business that could easily justify the need to employ me due to my skillset and history in the field of software engineering.
  20. Markham
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    The NHS is notoriously bad when it comes to getting foreign patients to pay for their medical care. Besides which PhilHealth is in no way comparable to the NHS - it's an insurance policy that pays a percentage of certain medical costs and not a health provider.
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