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Filipino medical staff leaving due to UK cock-up

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Drunken Max, Oct 2, 2018.

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Should foreign nurses with children be able to claim for Child Benefit?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Drunken Max
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    Drunken Max Well-Known Member Trusted Member

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  2. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    It looks like a mistake but we know nothing of what made them return the benefits that they wrongfully applied for (the papers always seem to miss out important bits in these immigration stories). If they realised their mistake and then returned the money without being prompted to do so then yes they have been treated harshly.

    We all have to check what we are and are not entitled to when it comes to UKVI and future applications otherwise they have us over a barrel.

    I am compassionate to their case and it seems crazy that the same UKVI was instrumental in paying for their flights to come here just a few years earlier.
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  3. Heathen
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    Heathen Active Member

  4. CatchFriday
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    CatchFriday British Expat living in Alicante, Spain

    Child Benefit is a monthly payment that can help you with the costs of your children.

    If you're eligible you'll get £20.70 a week for your first child and £13.70 a week for any children after that.

    You can claim Child Benefit if:

    • you're 'responsible for the child'
    • the child is under 16 years old - or 16 to 20 years old and still in education or training


    You can't though if you are from outside the EEA ........ as this nurse family have just found out - oops!!!!

    The Home Office apply the Rules to the letter.......
  5. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    If you apply for Child Benefit and are not eligible, then you will not get it. There are clear questions on the application regarding Immigration Status.

    If that family wer getting Child Benefit, then they must have lied on the application. They would not have "mistakenly" claimed it.
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  6. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Another topic on this! They are not entitled to it, and must have lied on the application form to get it in the first place.
  7. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Tara!
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  8. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    Why should the British taxpayer support all and sundry from abroad ? Who cares where they're from ?

    Does their country have a reciprocal arrangement ? Didn't think so.
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  9. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Rightly so
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  10. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    We certainly need to TRAIN more highly skilled hospital staff.

    This country is not short of British school leavers.
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  11. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    If I have read this right,this has been ongoing since June/July and only managed to go to press yesterday! The very day the PM announces immigration and highly skilled staff updates and measures. Odd that! No wait a minute press posturing springs to mind.
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  12. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    https://assets.publishing.service.g...ent_data/file/431137/reciprocal-agreement.pdf

    The UK has various reciprocal agreements with various countries, one of which you benefit from and which I hope I too will eventually benefit from namely annual UK retirement pension increases.

    True Child support likely won't be reciprocal, but they do have reciprocal agreements with the UK on benefits.
  13. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    This is about Child Benefit.

    You have no knowledge as to whether or not I am in receipt of any benefits from anywhere.
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  14. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    You are of pensionable age you said so on here, I was talking about your pension unlike many ex pat pensioners in other countries you will continue to get annual increases due to the reciprocal Social Security agreement in place with the Philippines.

    Details of the range of benefits available to be found here :

    http://webarchive.nationalarchives....ity-agreements/list-of-countries/philippines/
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  15. Markham
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    Markham Guest

    As far as I'm aware there are no benefits available to foreigners in the Philippines other than the UK State Pension which is paid by the UK Government, not the Philippine Government.

    And whilst you can claim your State Pension whilst living in the Philippines - and, as you rightly later say, be entitled to any increments - you would be well advised to have this modest amount credited to a UK bank account. If you ask the DWP to remit your pension to a Philippine bank account, you will pay both the remitter's and the recipient's bank charges and what paltry amount remains will be subject to an uninspiring rate of exchange.
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  16. Markham
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    Markham Guest

    Particularly as the story was seemingly scooped by the Mirror, a paper not known for being pro-Conservative.
  17. Drunken Max
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    Drunken Max Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I am sure that immigration arranged their deportation to be during the Tory Party conference. Poor tories...
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  18. Drunken Max
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    Drunken Max Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I think they qualify for child benefit once they get indefinite leave to remain. Personally I would have no issue in them receiving child benefit if they are UK tax/NI payers working on a tier 2 visa. We want to encourage trained medical staff here. There are plenty of other countries after their services and we need to compete. I would be quite specific as to what groups I would allow though.
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  19. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    If you take it in the UK it is taxable, if you take it in the Phils it is not taxable through the Philippine side of the dual taxation agreement, only matters if you have additional private provision in the UK.

    Further there has been talk of removing or reducing the personal tax allowance for ex pat (non-dom) pensioners, I don't think anything has come of that yet but it was being talked about in which case the state pension would be directly taxable if paid into a UK bank.
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  20. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Not sure I would call £712 per calendar month paltry.

    The options are to be paid every 13 weeks or every 4 weeks, in light of what you say it would make sense to be paid every 13 weeks as the fees are likely to be fixed and not proportional, I will however look into the best option closer to the time.
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