Well yes. But winter sunshine isn’t quite so effective apparently. Well not in the UK. I do believe if we don’t lay the foundation of ensuring Vit d sources in food then we then have to play catch-up by some other means. A good diet with Vit d in the food lays that foundation. Wouldn’t want to rely on supplements alone.
The air is a UV filter, the sun being low in the sky at this time of year is the direct reason plus the shorter hours of sunshine which result. For decades I've not gotten out in the sun, for me supplements are the only solution.
My point is that you are not going to get more than 5 to 10 micrograms a day from food, which might be close to the Recommended Dietary Allowance but is not taking into account the extra needed for healthy organ function which most people would get from sunlight, and at that 10 micrograms a day from a person's diet would be hard to reach. Living at our latitude is a fundamental problem when it comes to getting sunlight at any time of year. The study which started me on the vitamin D supplements was based on a daily supplement of 25 micrograms, the best results were when the supplement was taken daily rather than a higher dose weekly, at the time there was zero evidence of a connection to SARS-CoV-2 I just looked at the study and said well it seems to improve respiratory infection outcomes dramatically and me I suffer badly every year when it comes to respiratory illnesses. But it is good that you are using supplements as well but remember the vitamin K side of things too.
I know I'm a depressing git but virologists are now worried about a Frankenvirus, it seems certain now that SARS-CoV-2 is a hybridisation of two coronavirus that arose in a bat, the mash up looks like it happened about 10 years ago. Probably quoted as much of that article as I can get away with.
Vitamin D. We get more than enough sun-shine specially this time of year. Living near the sea and facing due East I watch where the sun rise, this time of year the sun is overhead at 12 noon. I try and get at least 5 minuets of sun-shine in the morning before the sun gets too high. I was wondering if this is too little?
You need 30 minutes or so with the sun overhead Jim, even in the Phils the low sun is strongly filtered, sun through glass is also filtered. That 30 minutes is with your upper body uncovered, head and arms won't get enough UV to help on their own. When I am in the Phils I don't actually get out enough to get particularly tanned as we tend to be late night people.
Not feasible with my skin type, had skin cancer cut out have to be careful. Looks like eggs and vitamin D supplements.
all this dietary advice..bah. i was told--years ago--no more than 3 eggs in a week--because i had naturally high cholestrol. also--to avoid too much fatty foods. vegetables can play havoc with my guts--like cholic. years of statins--crestor has got my cholestrol down to normal levels. more recently--diagnosed as borderline diabetic--so sent on an awareness course. now i have to reduce carbs. well--i got my weight down by a stone. but the main thing is--a balanced diet--and dont eat too much--simples. my old dad ate anything and everything--saying no such thing as bad food--just too much food is bad. he lived till 95--having had bowel cancer in his 80's--complete recovery and several skin cancers--and 2 heart attacks. he gave up smoking in his 40's--didnt drink booze--and was a lean machine.
A lot of people follow the “balanced diet” and get nowhere. The term “balanced diet” is a strange one. The people who coin it don’t know what they mean. As Tom Watson said, he had to ignore his own governments advice i.e. the NHS “balanced diet“ to lose all the weight that he did and reverse his own T2 diabetes. The NHS has been advising a “balanced diet” for a good number of decades and the nation hasn’t been getting any healthier. Before we were told no more than three eggs a week we were told go to work on an egg. So we are going full circle. I eat two eggs a day and am in better health than I have been for a number for years. The body needs cholesterol. Not statins.
I haven’t used a supplement yet. If I do it will be a top up as I figure my diet gives me almost enough, judging by the way I fend of viruses these days like I did 10 to 15 years ago. Am going to sit down and listen to that Oirish Feller again on it. https://thefatemperor.com/ep73-vitamin-d-status-and-viral-interactionsthe-science/
in my case i was diagnosed--by professor Mary Seed of the Hammersmith hospital--20 years ago as having hypolipodaemia--which means my system makes too much cholestrol. its an inherited condition, no diet would make any difference. so--i was prescribed statins. tried lots. mostly they did nothing--or gave me side effects--like diahorrea. then--rosuvastatin--it was then a newish "wonder-drug ". ( crestor ) works for me--below 4--so i'm staying with it.
Understood. I refused them when offered them by a GP of mine. Statins lower cholesterol when many people’s cholesterol needs raising. That was the case in my case. So no to statins and yes to eggs.
Here’s what Dr Aseem Malhotra says in his book about vitamin D:. Note his point relating to the BAME community:
Hence why I started taking supplementary vitamin D in March, "unless proven otherwise assume you're deficient" he's not only talking about the BAME (I don't like that acronym for some reason) population but his mention of 10 micrograms per day is a lot lower than the Irish fellow was suggesting and is much lower than the BMJ published study I referred to from 10 years ago, that study was operating on 25 microgram/day supplements and found that daily supplementation was better than weekly.
The article I refer to on the previous page regarding Bradykinin I think is crucial because Bradykinin explains many of the symptoms of Covid 19 and vitamin D is involved in the regulation of Bradykinin, its a genuine lightbulb moment they finally have an explanation of why this illness is so severe and getting that understanding is the first real step to being able to intervene.
You didn’t look at Dr David Unwins stuff Oss. He is proving conclusively the point about fat and cholesterol. There’s a learning point there. He is a GP trainer and is basically showing the result of his findings to practices across the land. No RCTs required as this is the real deal. Speaking to the senior partner at my practice today for the first time and she said she recommends lchf to her patients but many don’t listen. Incidentally, Dr David Unwin, Dr Aseem Malhotra and The Fat Emperor (the Oirish Fella) all see things from a similar way. Fat Emperor is so called not because he is fat but because he specialises in the role of fat, cholesterol amongst others in our diet.
This might be so. Personally I am only thinking as far as immunity to the latter ravages of Covid 19 by consuming the right food.
The graphs the Irish chap showed fit with the Bradykinin hypothesis where it comes to vitamin D his graphs showed, what was it a measure over 30 nanomole per something and very few people even got hospitalised. Vitamin D seems to prevent bradykinin getting out of control and the associated blood vessel leakage issues which explain both lung problems and issues with the blood brain barrier and covid neurological symptoms, overweight people with high blood pressure more likely to die, and the main symptom the gumming up of alveoli possibly as a result of hyaluronic acid mixing with lung fluids. It's early but I am very interested in seeing follow up on this in terms of potential clinical treatments.
