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Cenomar validity

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Chicksisweetie, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. Chicksisweetie
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    Hi all, just a quick question regarding the validity of cenomar with the British embassy. I just want to ask how long until my cenomar will be valid cuz I had it since last July. It's now 3-4 months with me. Would it be an issue when we apply? If so, I'll just get a new one. We'll be applying in 2 weeks. Any response would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance :)
  2. tipipay
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    If I'm not mistaken, the validity is 6months.
  3. Chicksisweetie
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    With the British embassy yeah?
    I'm just worried cuz someone told me that cenomar can only be valid for 3 months that's why I asked here.
  4. tipipay
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    As what I know, it's 6months. But I'm not sure with your question about the validity when used as a visa requirement. Wouldn't it be the same? I took mine 3weeks before I submitted. For your peace of mind, you can always get a new one.:like:
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  5. Maharg
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    Why are you enquiring? If it is for a fiancee visa don't worry about it. The cenomar is irrelevant and not required in visa applications for the UK.
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  7. Maharg
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    They want evidence of legality due to divorce or death, or evidence that you are married to your partner if applying for a spouse visa.

    There is no doucment in the UK to prove you have never been married. Cenomar is a Philippines only document which means nothing in the UK.

    We've never had one and never needed one. When I enqired to the visa agency we used when we applied, I was told it's not required.

    No harm in including it, but no point sweating over it either.
  8. joi1991
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    Does that mean even if I am married here in the Philippines I can go to UK through a Fiance visa and marry someone else?
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  9. Timmers
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    Whatever floats your boat young lady :D
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  10. Maharg
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    No.
  11. Maharg
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    That list of documents is very misleading. It asks for evidence of employment or studies. Irrelevant in a fiance visa as it is sponsor's employment they need.
  12. bigmac
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    have you been married to a filipino ?
  13. Timmers
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    She is just speaking hypothetically
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  14. Chicksisweetie
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    I'm asking it as my requirement for fiancé visa. I think also that it's valid for 6 months with the British embassy, as I'm not sure though that's why I just asked here to make it sure.
  15. joi1991
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    Nope.

    Although I have a friend who might be interested with what Maharg said.
  16. joi1991
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    I didn't get the other responses. @Chicksisweetie simply asked if her CENOMAR is still valid. Maharg said its not necessary so I got confused and ask if a married Pinay can go to UK through a Fiance visa.
  17. Maharg
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    Why might she be interested? All I'm saying is that the Cenomar is not necessary for visa applications to the UK.

    If your friend is married in The Philippines she cannot get a fiancee visa. She needs to submit divorce papers.
  18. joi1991
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    Graham, an applicant has to prove that they are free to marry. That is a spousal/fiance visa requirement. What you are saying is applicable to previously married ones. Cenomar is what single applicants need to prove they are free to marry.
  19. Maharg
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    There is no such thing as a Cenomar in the UK or, indeed, any other country. It's just a made up Philippines thing. It is not required, but if people feel better about including it I would say include it.

    I know it isn't required because I made the enquiry before when my now-wife applied, was told it wasn't needed, and we never got one. We applied without a Cenomar and were successful, based on the advice I was given by the Visa Agency used.

    I believe you need to show it if doing the Premium Service in The Philippines, however, because they specifically ask for it. On a straight forward application it isn't needed.

    As far as the UK is concerned, you need to prove you are free to marry only if you have been previously married.
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  20. Timmers
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    That's correct, the applicant and sponsor has no need to prove they have never been married, if you have been married then the sponsor needs to submit a Decree Absolute and the applicant in the Philippines needs to submit a CEMAR (certificate of marriage) along with the annulment paperwork.

    As you say, people who have not been married before can submit the CENOMAR if they so wish, it will not do any harm.

    I think people get a little mixed up because they are looking at what they do in the Philippines, applicants must remember they are applying through the British Government where Philippine law has no bearing on any part of the application.

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