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Brit shot on the eve of his wedding

Discussion in 'Warnings and Dangers' started by Methersgate, Jul 23, 2017.

  1. Aromulus
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    When in Phils I always carried 2 wallets.........
    One with a couple of 50 pesos and lots of expired visa and mastercard cards, AA membership and what have you.

    The second wallet in my undercrackers.
    Nothing ever happened for me to relinquish possession of the junk wallet..........:D
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  2. Anon04576
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    Make sure you don't give me one of those notes out the second wallet eh :lol:
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  3. Bootsonground
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    They would not believe that for one minute...First of all,your nose is too long and secondly you are far too white to be of Asian decent.
    Just not credible enough!! Sorry.
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  4. Dave_E
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    Seems too suspicious to me, a couple of days before his wedding ffs...

    How many "Aliens", passively drinking beer outside a local convenience store in the Philippines get shot by gun toting blokes on bikes.

    From other reports: they got his wallet which contained 500 peso , less than 10 quid, even a Scotman would have handed that over.

    Hope the Gentleman pulls through.
  5. Dave_E
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    :rolleyes:
    Yes, the paperwork would be your only problem.
  6. oss
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    I don't generally carry a wallet when I am out anywhere in the Phils these days, I carry the cash that I think I might spend and if we might need more then I will carry her Metrobank card and the money in the ATM account will be reasonable but limited, my cards remain at home in a secure location in the house (in Manila), I will carry a photocopy of my passport and the entry stamp and maybe my driving licence photo ID but that's it.
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  7. Maley
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    I think most of you are advised to hand over the wallet. Most robbers in ph will allow you to take your ID with you. They are just interested with the cash.

    I have heard a few instances where the victim pleaded with the robbers to leave a few peso so she/he can grab fare on the way home.
  8. Bluebird71
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    One tip I have read (maybe here) is to carry two wallets. The proper one, and one with some notes in there. Another thing is, when I worked at a bank on work experience the first lesson was that, if you are in an armed robbery situation, simply pay up. Money can be recovered, you may not be.
  9. Methersgate
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    Me too. "After all these years...":oops:

    The loss of face thing is something that is all to easy to forget. "After all, everyone here is an English speaking Christian like me..." famous last thoughts of several people..
  10. Anon04576
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    Yes very true. One never knows if it will happen and probably best to minimise the chance of parting with large amounts of cash.
  11. Bluebird71
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    I well remember a few people pushing in front of me at a travel exchange in the Philippines. It's the sort of thing that always gets me riled up, but I remained unusually calm and let it happen. I was annoyed, but it wasn't something I wanted to get into bother over.
  12. Bluebird71
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    I just noticed Aromulus does exactly that (the two wallet trick). Maybe he's posted similar advice here before, but that was the first thing I thought about when I read the story. I hope the victim makes a full recovery.
  13. Anon04576
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    Indeed. Easy to lower ones guard in the heat-haze climate. I suppose having travelled there a few times and everything has gone fine doesn't necessarilly mean it will the next time.
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  14. KeithAngel
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    That could scar a young street robbers dreamscape for life Dom:rolleyes:
  15. Dave_E
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    Two wallets seems a bit silly to me, just leave important cards and stuff in a safe place at home / hotel.

    Fold and place any high value currency notes into your shirt pocket or stuff them into the small pocket on your Levis.

    Hundred US dollar note is a high value note, a thousand PH peso note is not.
  16. oss
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    I did the two wallet thing for a while, long time ago, it is not comfortable, the only thing it achieves is the short term appearance that the robber is getting away with it, if they actually check and realise the cards are out of date well you could be in the same position as this chap with a bullet in your chest.

    As I mention above I switched to carrying what I need and what I would be comfortable to lose.
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  17. oss
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    The healthcare professionals there are very good, very well trained and very underpaid, he should recover but whether he will ever be allowed to leave the hospital before the bill is settled is another matter.

    When my daughter was born I was in attendance, we could not leave the hospital until the bill was settled around about a £1000 and it had to be in local currency, I covered it with a mixture of the cash I had on me and using a set of credit cards to remove enough cash from the ATM in the hospital lobby, this was not an individual bill, you get the hospital bill and the consultant's fee's separately, and please note there was an armed guard at the exit of the building :D

    Technically they should not be able to detain anyone, there is a law that states that no one should be detained in a hospital because the bill has not yet been paid but it doesn't quite work that way in practice.
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  18. Methersgate
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    haha! My eldest son was born in Manila Doctors' Hospital which is an excellent if slightly old fashioned largely-Chinese hospital. The mother of my children was in labour when the hospital discovered that I was Caucasian and instantly the long nose tax swung into effect - "The baby will have a big head - we will arrange for a Caesarian section..." to which with admirable presence of mind she replied "He's left me! I can't afford it! " and a couple of hours later out came a slightly premature little boy by the normal route at a cost of P35K vs the 120K for the Caesarian. The punch line is that I was in the hospital paying over P35K in cash at the time, but being old fashioned, Manila Doctors didn't allow fathers amywhere near the delivery room, so nobody checked...!
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  19. oss
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    Both James and Janna were natural births, Ana's consultant was a nice lady and invited me in when she saw me waiting outside with my cameras, I have the pictures for Janna's first moment in the outside world and no I am never sharing those publically :D

    I know Manila Doctors, I spent some time there with food poisoning but both my kids were born in Mandaluyong, the price for a natural birth and two days in hospital had gone up a lot by 2008 ;) :D
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  20. Bluebird71
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    My father in law passed away last year with pneumonia. He went through all sorts, including dialysis, and tubes forced into lungs etc. He was in his late 70s and, whilst my wife and her family have no complaints about his treatment, and whilst I am obviously not as qualified as the people administering his treatment, a part of me did wonder how ethical his treatment was. Very sad if I think about it.
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