After 20 Calendar Days

Oh i c.. Thanks..

Some have done it and found out the hard way that it wasnt a good idea.

Yes, better have that little sticker in your passport before you intend to leave for the UK

Oh really? So if you get the visa before its start date you have to wait until the start date has passed to get the sticker? Is that definitely correct? I can't find it on the CFO website.

Yes, that is the case, you cant get the sticker until the start date on the visa 100%

You can sit the CFO seminar first though.

Hi everyone, now what i heard from my contact (immigration assistant )in Manila is true that
visa can be released earlier now, his latest client got hers for 10 working days only...this is such a wonderful news, this is so inspiring!congratulations Anne <3

Exactly. They don't tell you the half of it on the website.

And, to my annoyance, the CFO was something the agency we used didnt even mention. But to be fair it isnt about applying for a visa so in their eyes wasn't their business to mention.

I hadnt even heard of the CFO until my wife mentioned it at some point while preparing for the visa application. It came as a shock when she mentioned it and didn't believe her at first.

Ohh ok thanks Timmers.

Hello Anne,,
I just copy all that and send to my fiancee. And he reply me back why he need to get that unnnecessary documents. Where in the immigration site it says that he need that everything. We argue with that topic that we need that supporting documents... he didnt listen to me. He says i dont need wages slip nor certificate contract. The immigration only ask about financial stable that he has 8600 a year before tax. Thats the only thing the immigration ask... Thats only thing his accountant provide.(that he got 860o before tax)... wages slip and certificate employment is not anymore needed. And i insist that is only a supporting documents that we need to make it genuine. And he says what is the point if he already provide that he has above 8600 before tax. And if the immigration cant believe then they will just ring his accountant, what is the point sending other docs if the immigration will just ring his account to make it more genuine... ohhh grrr... we really argue with that. He ask me that i wilk give him a site in ukba asking with that documents.. my gosh.. grrrr.. his not listening he just follow whats the ukba ask and thats it.. grrrrr... He has this attitude didnt believe easily what other people says, he just believe what he see and read in the site... grrrr...
----this is his reply to me..


Sheryl,

Where does it say on the uk immigration website that you need to supply all that???

They want to know your application is genuine, I can financially support you and provide suitable accommodation - that is all.

John

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Hi all! Below are the documents we submitted for settlement (marriage) visa application. We grouped it into 10 parts according to the order of documents list provided by VFS 2 years ago. On top of which are:
> Family Settlement Application form,
> Financial Requirement Form,
> Sponsorship Undertaking Form
> Applicant's current and previous passport
> Recent coloured and unframed passport-sized photo taken with light background approx. 45mmx35mm
> IELTS Results
> TB Screening Certificate

I. Sponsor's/Fiance's scanned passport
- personal details page
- stamped pages only
II. Accommodation
- flat invoice and receipt
- tenant insurance??????

- certificate of tenancy registration
- flat description
- tenancy agreement
- inventory and schedule of condition???
- TV license??

- letter from landlord stating that I can live there
- council tax??
- electric and water bill??
- flat pictures??
- flat floor plan (my fiance just drew it by himself)??

III. Financial (Fiance's document)
- contract of employment
- wage slips
- P60 certificate
- easy cash statement
- world remit statement
- orbit remit statement
**I also inserted my bank statement and certification to match the money he has sent me
IV. Evidence that your has permanent residence in the UK. Not applicable if sponsor has British Nationality.
V. Letter of support from sponsor/fiance (6 pages in our case)?? why 6 pages!!
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Didnt know how to explain to him.. im really not good in arguing... He has one belief and thats what he read.. grrrrr.... is it fine if i only have it one at a time documents?? Grrrr like financial statement - accountant letter that he has above 8600 before tax. And in the accomodation - flat contract and letter that i can stay there..

Im really worried that if i only passed that without supporting documents my application will declined. And i already explained that to him. And he insist thats the only ukba asked...

Huhuhuhu.. dont know what to do to convince him... Not good in arguing with him i cant win with him. Huhuhuhu....

It is hard to beleive. But sadly the gist of it is true. I would be the first to say that some people submit more than is required but also that there is a certain minimum essential evidence that should be submitted. Your partner is at risk of losing the application and the fee money if he doesnt take some care. Maybe after some time he will realise that what needs to be done, needs to be done.

(I couldnt believe it all when I first heard about it. So it is easy to understand your partners doubts )

Did you look at our application? We were advised by an agent. It is a little more condensed than some.

Post no 59

http://www.british-filipino.com/index.php?threads/after-20-calendar-days.9294/page-3

Well, if he doesn't prove to the UKBA that he can support you then I'm afraid you will be stuck in the Philippines for a while to come. He needs to supply at least the last 6 months payslips, original bank statements for the same period and a letter from his employer stating his salary, how long he has been paid that salary for, whether he is permanent or temporary and how long he has been employed for. Documents above and beyond what the UKBA require could be P60, employment contract and 12 months of bank statements and payslips instead of 6 months.

Maybe he has it all in hand and you have nothing to worry about.

If you want you can always post here the documents you are submitting prior to the application, this way at least the chaps and ladies here can give you a little input to put your mind at rest.

Try not to worry about it

Sheryl, maybe you should point your fiance to this forum for him to have a look at other's experiences?

I must admit, I think some people do send too much BUT it's much better to send too much than not enough. As John says you risk being refused and losing the money, as well as several months of time.

It sounds to me like you need to try to encourage him to do some reading of his own.

We had two visit visas turned down a few years back and that was because I had little or no knowledge of how the UKBA work, perusing and getting involved on sites like British Filipino can only open your eyes to what is required when dealing with these people.

There is a lot of money and stress involved with visa applications, any information you can find and use prior to your application can only be a good thing. At the end of the day it is up to ourselves what we submit, thus we only have ourselves to blame if the visa is declined.

As a rule they dont go chasing the applicant if they are not satisfied with the submitted paperwork. This idea of them phoning the sponsors accountant shouldnt be relied upon. In fact I think it is unlikely they would do that. The onus is on the applicant to convince the ECO that they satisfy the requirements. The convincing process takes the form of documentation at the point of visa application and doesnt normally take the form of phone conversations, interviews or email exchanges.

Dear @shengsei1990,

I am sorry to hear you and your partner had an argument because of my post. I was just sharing what we submitted and no intention to let other people get stressed. Since my fiance and I have done this application for the first time and only rely on 2 forums with no agency involved, we have to lay down our cards and get what we THINK is needed in our application. It took us 2 years to prepare all these because ,we, too were scared to commit mistakes and lose lots of money. Our mind set was same as @LisaUK 's post "it is better to submit too much than not enough."

As of this time we weren't thinking of the unnecessary documents we submitted but to move forward. Was kinda busy meeting up with relatives and friends and planning for the wedding. I still have pending posts to make. Will get back to you guys as soon as I can.

Anne

I do agree with Anne and Lisa. It is better to submit too much than too little. For sure.

Oh, the 6-page letter of support was tissue wasting, I know. I kept a copy myself as well. My fiance just wants to write our love story since we've known each other since birth. Our grandmothers are friends and our mothers are best of friends.

If you are self employed I was advised you need to submit 3 years of accounts. Plus you need bank statements beginning at the start of your most recent financial year, so at least 12 months.

For example, if yo applied now you need bank statements back to April 2013, as the financial year begins in April.

If you send too little the application will fail. We were unsuccessful first time because of this.

If they don't think you have provided enough evidence they will not phone you and ask for more. They will fail you.

Don't find this out the hard way, like we did.