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Pregnant ex-gf moving back to PH

Discussion in 'Relationship Advice' started by Tintin2024, Feb 12, 2024.

  1. HONEST DAVE
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    Some Filipinas prefer not to be close to their family's especially if it is a huge extended one as there is always a family member in need and a high degree of expectancy for the woman married to a foreigner to provide for them, added to that it is also not good for the Foreigner as he is unlikely to get peace in his own home, Filipinos are a noisy lot when they all get together, not saying it is like that in every case but it is in so many.
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  2. bigmac
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    well--my wife has been back there 2 weeks now--back here on monday--together with her sister and family--and sister in law and her family--7 all in. All coming over as dependants of care worker spouses / parents. All sharing a 2 bed flat. ( plus wifes daughter.

    Ive got a strange feeling some will have their eyes on my place. Sod that.
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  3. Mattecube
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    you will need a minibus! Malc’s Taxis has a certain ring to it don’t you think? Lol
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  4. bigmac
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    all arranged--i think.
  5. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    A mini bus, long term I meant
  6. bigmac
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    i am looking out for a 7 seater.
    ideally sharan, touran

    wife is finally learning to drive--an automatic: so i think thats the way to go.

    I want to burn my licence--ive had enough of it.
  7. Heathen
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    Malc, driving around on the IOW has to be better than the M5/M6/M42 around Brum, then again you could always venture over to Manila and hire a car to experience the joys of driving/crawling around in Manila :D:D.
  8. Heathen
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    Back on topic, Firstly i need to apologise to Tintin as at one time I doubted that this topic was genuine, I do believe now it is based on fact, as for the Philippines It is no different to anywhere else in that if you go looking for trouble then you will find it, I would suggest that he avoids Manila nothing good to say about the place except that it is one of the last places on earth that I would want to live, and even a short visit is to be avoided unless one likes Traffic jams, fumes, noise and getting ripped off by all and sundry, AC I only had short visit there whilst basically passing through never much liked the idea of paying for a quickie ;), Cebu very much like a mini manila, then out to what people term as the provinces but where one can meet many genuine and friendly Filipinos, Davao can have the usual big city Traffic jams but is pretty safe compared to Manila, Bohol/Panglao are very nice tourist places to visit and to put down roots, Palawan is a place most people should add to there places to visit list no traffic issues and plenty of resorts and attractions on the North side of Palawan, Iloilo is a typical mid sized city with a mix of modern and basic filipino culture, but my favourite as others have said is Dumaguete just something about the place that I just like (not shared by my wife) it has plenty of universities, some nice eateries, a fair few ex pats of various nationalities, and a lovely laid back feeling to the place as a whole.
    My personal Top 3 places to visit would be;
    1. Dumaguete
    2. Palawan
    3. Panglao

    It is pretty easy to fly to the various Islands of the Philippines, and a visa on arrival is easy enough, I would suggest that anyone who has the time and inclination take a visit to the Philippines it is as they say more fun in Phills :).
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  9. PhilPensioner
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    I think you will find that the MAJORITY of Filipinas DO.

    As you are aware, Filipinos are VERY family-orientated.

    Of course there is an exception to every rule., but an average poriner trying to impose his (negative) attitude towards Filipino family life, is likely to end up with a failed relationship.
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  10. wardy33
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    Most filipinos in the U/K with a job will send a lot of money back home to pay for medical issues schooling and college for family members, my wife is helping family build up their house to a decent standard i don't care its her money, 7 family members living in a 2 bedroomed flat hope the dried fish smell is not too bad!
    Can these care worker dependents get benefits housing etc provided or do they rely on the care workers salary.
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  11. PhilPensioner
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    Good question. :erm:

    Maybe somebody can ask their MP.
  12. bigmac
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    Can these care worker dependents get benefits housing etc provided or do they rely on the care workers salary.

    good question--and the answer is--i dont know!

    The sponsor company provided staff accommodation--a sort of HMO--and it was very good. They each were docked £500 a month to cover rent, council tax and utilities. But 6 months on they got notice to quit ! They had yo find their own accomm--and i found them a nice flat which worked out cheaper.
    Now their families are joining them--the will have to find another place.

    I know they get NHS treatment--and schooling for the kids. I suppose child benefit the same as any other tax payers.

    It is a political hot potato. The root cause for all this problem--is the British work force---people dont want the jobs in the care sector. They are happy to dump granma in a care home--especially if the council pays the cost. But no one wants the job of wiping bums and changing wet bedding.

    So--the gov solved the prob by recruiting immigrant workers--and had to allow family members in to sweeten the deal. However--the gov didnt factor in the critcal need for rentable housing--and these workers are competing with a demand from Brits who are being chucked out of theirs at an alarming rate.
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  13. HONEST DAVE
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    I had a male care worker from Zimbabwe as a Tenant for only a short time soon after he was given a house from the council and was able to bring his wife and three children over this all happened in or around 6 months and not more? I'm not sure what benefits/welfare he will receive, but I'm sure as a PAYE Taxpayer he will get whatever he requires to keep his family above minimum living allowance, tax relief for his family circumstances and for sure he will get Family allowance for each child, You get £24 for the first child and £15.90 for the others, so this will get him well over £200 a month. Back in his home country this was his monthly wage as a Policeman.
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  14. HONEST DAVE
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    As a bit of a Drunken Master spending many hours in the bars there in PH, the one most common story I hear is; MANY Filipinas returning home with a bit of coin in their pockets and along with their Foreign spouse can have a problem with their poor unfortunate family members expecting handouts, Feck every man and his dog knows that?

    True of what you say Filipinos are generally VERY close knit family's much more so than most UK family's or perhaps any other westernised country?

    That's all good and well when they all are in the same boat, but when one of them betters their life then that family unity can soon break down, having lived in PH for a longer term, I have either seen this happen or mostly heard it from so many other trusted Foreigner friends. Btw I never had this problem with my own In-laws there. Often the real problem behind all of this is JEALOUSY, this great big family unity can soon be disrupted when one of them excels above the others.

    I would hazard a guess that you have never lived in PH for any length of time and perhaps only visited short term, your comments here lend me to think this?

    Now as for this average Poriner you mention 'A' dinnae ken whit yer talking aboot?
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  15. HONEST DAVE
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    I get it Noo that is a Foreign Sex Tourist, good one.
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    are you sure temporary care workers qualify for " family allowance "( child benefit) ? I couldnt find a definite yes about this.
  17. HONEST DAVE
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    No I am not sure and only guessing? I only know this was an issue back in the day when they allowed the eastern Europeans to walk into the UK some 20yrs ago when they were newly accepted into the EU, the Poles were coming over in droves and collecting Family Allowance for their children back home in Poland, so I'm only guessing as a working PAYE taxpayer this will qualify most if not all immigrants to apply for this?

    Added to that it would appear that the welfare state looks after Immigrants (me no understand English) better than the indigenous people of the country, again I must admit to this only being hearsay?

    In the case of this man from Zimbabwe, it does make me wonder if it is only right that they decided to make the changes to the amount of income a person must have before bringing his immigrant Family or prospective Spouse over to UK? This should especially apply up here in Scotland where the population is mainly (Pure) white red haired people, I think they should keep all the coloureds south of Hadrian's wall where it is warmer for them and they can integrate better with the vast communities that exist there already.
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    https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit-move-to-uk#:~:text=You cannot claim Child Benefit,the UK for Child Benefit

    Reading the link above then don't beleive they are eligible for child benefit as they will be subject to immigration control until reach the point of achieving ILR. Same as family visa route although British Sponsor can claim for children so bit pointless apart from fact that partner can't get national insurance credits as a result of child benefit.
  19. bigmac
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    thats how i understood it. So its ok for my filipino brother in law to work 60 hours a week in the care sector--pay a great chunk of income tax and NI--but cant get child benefit for his 2 kids arriving here on monday.
  20. PhilPensioner
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    Sir, I have been visiting/living in the Philippines for 34+ years... this last stretch for 6 years. I had this house built 8 years ago.
    I was married to my first Filipina wife for 15 years...whom I also brought to the UK. I have been married to this present one for 9 years. I am a permanent resident here (13A visa). I have a 'half/half' son aged 30 years in the UK, and another son aged 8 years, here in the Phils...both dual nationals. I also have two Filipino stepchildren from my first marriage, both of whom I brought to the UK.
    I have lived in Manila and Angeles City for periods of several years (I was in AC last week, visiting with friends), as well as in the provinces. So...guess I DO have a little bit of experience of life in the Phils.

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