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Would You Pay More Tax in Return for Less Immigration?

Discussion in 'Life in the UK' started by Anon220806, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. Anon220806
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    That was the question posed by Nick Robinson last night to a number of people he interviewed. His message was that there is a cost to be incurred by the nation in return for a reduction in Immigration.

    Most that he interviewed appear to say yes. :D
  2. KeithAngel
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    An interesting Program his sample appeared to be mostly late middle age folk

    There were two additional programs last night Benifits town which is an open prison some where up north :rolleyes:

    and Newsnight where the tories appear to have seen that raising minimum wage to "a living wage" might be a good idea from £11520 to £13650 appx just needs selling to the Employers lol
  3. Anon220806
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    I didnt see the other stuff as the Mrs was having a clear out. I think there is something else on tonight on Immigration. Hot topic just now. :D
  4. Anon220806
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    9:30pm - 10:30pm BBC Two

    The Hidden World of Britain's Immigrants


    "BBC2’s short season on immigration continues to probe the issue that exercises ordinary voters to an extent politicians are scrambling to acknowledge – rarely with much subtlety. Last night, Nick Robinson attempted an overview of the politics of recent immigration; tonight it’s the turn of Fergal Keane to offer the kind of personalised, sensitive reportage he’s so good at.

    Keane is interested in immigrants who come illegally to Britain and subsist below the radar of officialdom. Often demonised in the popular press, their numbers are by definition uncertain (600,000 is one estimate) and dealing with them has become one of the government’s biggest administrative headaches. But who are they, and what brings them here?

    ABOUT THIS PROGRAMME
    Documentary following Fergal Keane as he uncovers the realities of life for some of Britain's estimated 600,000 illegal immigrants. In Ilford, east London, the journalist meets Shanki, a native Indian who, having outstayed the duration of his tourist visa, continued to work illegally and now finds himself embroiled in gang life and sleeping rough on the streets. He also encounters a Lithuanian couple struggling to find proper shelter as they recover from heroin addiction, and a man who faces an uphill struggle to return to his homeland."


    http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/crjbbh/the-hidden-world-of-britains-immigrants
  5. Markham
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    I haven't watched the programme - iPlayer doesn't work here for most of the BBC's output - but I do question its premise. Would there necessarily be higher taxation if there was lower immigration? One could argue that with lower immigration, there'd be more opportunities for the country's own citizens to get employment and therefore be less of a drain on public finances - and there'd be fewer economic migrants (those who come purely for the benefits) and NHS tourists. Taxation could, in theory at least, be reduced.

    Having read Nick Robinson's piece, I suspect this programme reflected the long-standing BBC editorial bias even if not quite as overtly as normal. Maybe that reduction in bias is reflective of the mood of the nation.
  6. Anon220806
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    It would be useful to be able to watch the program, but it assured us that there is a financial gain to the country from the immigrants that come here. Cant think why they would have wanted to say that if it wasnt the case.

    They interviewed Farage who said it would be a price worth paying, so he obviously agreed with the idea that the country does benefit in said way.

    "It would be better for Britain to be poorer but with fewer immigrants, Nigel Farage claimed today.
    The UK Independence Party leader said he said he would ‘rather we weren’t slightly richer’ if it means allowing more people into the country to work and create jobs."



    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-makes-poorer-says-Farage.html#ixzz2pr1uO5y3
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    Haven't watched either but assume its manipulation, also can't understand the argument to be honest. If you have less immigration for people who can "legally" claim benefits then surely that is less tax? At the same time I would request a "skill based" immigration to get rid of the illegal taxi types and unskilled people either here already illegally or wanting to arrive. Also "immigration" is often misguided as a phrase as asylum seeker and students may not fall into these categories but may often be the focus of documentaries.

    For genuine people wanting to come to the UK I welcome anyone who's smart enough and capable enough to stand on their own 2 feet. As such would expect them to already be able to prove themselves before arriving. Those with partners of British nationals should also be a no brain argument as long as they are capable of standing on their own 2 feet as well. Doesn't mean the Mrs needs a degree just that they would not become a burden of the state (or should I say me as a tax payer).

    So my answer is "no" I don't agree as we are already paying too much tax and we are already paying too much into the border force etc. when what it actually needs is a change in law to remove people that shouldn't be here and being able to kick them out before they arrive.
  9. Anon220806
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    I think the case is based on the idea that not all immigrants are claiming benefits. And that those that aren't are earning and paying taxes and contributing to the economy. And that those that are claiming benefits are in a minority of immigrants.
  10. MattWilkie
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    would still leave the argument open for existing unemployed that are a burden of the state and may not be able to work because the jobs are already taken.
  11. Anon220806
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    Hopefully the latest from Dave and Theresa have this one tied up now.
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