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Vistor visa for newley weds

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by richey, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. richey
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    richey Member

    We are thinking of applying for a vistor visa as we dont want to wait six months before we can apply for a spouse visa and wanted some advice to get it right first time. We got married in september i am 37 she is 23 we had a church wedding in philippines it is registered with the municple but we do not have the nso authentic marraige contract for five more months. So does that matter?

    Our situation is this i am working and earn over 18600 and only started in october before that i cant prove my income. I also had a gap of two months traverling.I will get my first pay slip in novemeber and next xmas. My wife is a student and has family in philippines but no income and ibdont know how to prove she will go back, how do i do this?

    Secondly how do i save chat files from fb and viber do i just copy and paste the words?

    Also can anyone else tell me how much incone they had in the bank i am thinking i may have 4000 pound by the time i am paid in novemember. However my money the four months before was pretty much zero as i was traverling and paided for a wedding, do i just show two months bank statements?

    I currently have a tenancy agreement which is 200 miles from my employer will this matter? Would i need tp rent a room neaer to my employment. Would it have to be a shorthold tenancy or could i rent a room.

    I would be grateful for any advice from anyone thanks
  2. Tygrrysek
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  3. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Welcome to the forum richey, securing the visit visa is not the easiest of things to achieve at the best of times, note that it only costs around £87 to apply so there is no great financial lost should the application be declined. Regarding the evidence to submit regarding your wife returning to the Philippines, you can only work with what you've got so to speak, I mentioned in an earlier post that a lot of people applying for visit visas are not fortunate to be able to tick all the right boxes for the visa. Give it a try, you have everything to gain.

    One of the other chaps can tell you how to save Facebook messages, I know it can be done, @bigmac asked the same question a while back and may be able to help you.

    If you're talking about money in the bank for the settlement visa then it is not needed, you need 6 months wage slips/bank statements, if its for the visit visa then I would submit what the UKVI ask for. You need to convince the UKVI that your wife's trip will be fully funded.

    Where you live in relation to where you work is of no relevance to the visit visa, your accommodation situation comes into play when you are applying for the settlement visa.

    Look at the bottom of this page and search the forum for more information on visit and settlement visas, everything is here that you need to know :)

    Good luck in your quest.
  4. richey
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    richey Member

    Ive had a search for vistor visa and only got six results one of them was mine, is that right.

    I realise i have to tick the boxes i just didnt know if 4k was a box or if it is 5k or 6k.

    If i am applying and sponsering her does it matter that she has nothing in the bank? Ive read if she was applying she would need cash.Can i show my western union transactions to show ive supported her for the last six months etc .
  5. Timmers
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    There are literally hundreds of threads on the forum relating to visit visas if you search the forum.

    It is better if your other half has money in her account when applying for the visa, any financial information like this can only strengthen your case, some people transfer money into the applicants bank account prior to the application, she can always bring the money with her on her visit to the UK. The application is all about convincing the UKVI that your wife will return to the Philippines and stick to the terms of the visa which is made more difficult given that you are married.

    If I was in your position I would be waiting a few more months until you have 6 months wage slips and apply for the settlement visa, the settlement visa cannot be declined if you meet the requirements.

    Regarding the money you should have, you need to show you have enough funds to cover the trip, bear in mind the standard visit visa is a 6 month visa, state on your application that she only intends to visit for a few weeks to enhance your chances.
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  6. bigmac
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    if i were in your shoes i would just wait 6 months--then apply for a spouse visa. the fact you are married--and can prove it--should satisfy the case worker your relationship is genuine--so 6 months payslips and bank statements to prove it---plus suitable accommodation--and its job done.
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  7. graham59
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    Agree... patience is a virtue, and more likely to produce a much more valuable visa than a visitor one at the end of it. Keep the money in the bank to put towards that. :like:
  8. bigmac
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    i also think if you try to apply for a visit visa for your wife--any case worker would be understandably suspicious you might be trying to bring her in on a cheap visa and then overstay.
    they would certainly look long and hard for a reason to refuse.

    the return flight cost will be halfway towards the spouse visa fee.
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  9. Simonm
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    Hi

    Is a spouse visa different to a settlement visa?

    Timmers, you said 'If I was in your position I would be waiting a few more months until you have 6 months wage slips and apply for the settlement visa, the settlement visa cannot be declined if you meet the requirements'. Really? Is that true? We do meet the requirements, ie minimum income (I am employed as Head of Europe), have a new 3 bed home having just moved back from Dubai, and will have six months pay slips with bank statements confirming this.

    Cheers

    Simon
  10. Timmers
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    Spouse visa is the settlement visa, we just use the terms spouse and fiancée visa on the forum to distinguish between single and married, there is no difference to the applications apart from submitting proof of marriage (Marriage Certificate) if applying for the spouse visa and intention of marriage for the Fiancée visa. The Fiancée visa is actually called a Marriage Settlement visa.

    Yes it is true, if you get all your paperwork in order then the visa cannot be declined unlike the UK visit visa. Its not difficult to accrue and get the required documents in order, you just have to be a little pedantic and submit the application in such a way that there will be no misunderstandings on the case officers part, present the application in a way that a 10 year old could easily understand it. I'll be perfectly honest, not many people here on the forum have had the misfortune to have their settlement visa declined, all the required information for a successful visa application is contained within this forum, with that and a few posts on stuff you are not sure about you will be well on your way to securing the visa.

    Waiting for six months wage slips will make life a little easier for you in the respect that you don't have to start submitting the financial and company details of your previous company in Dubai, it will just make life easier for you that's all.
  11. DavidAlma
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    Hi Timmers
    My situation is somewhat similar to Simon. Difference being that I am still working and resident in Dubai. Can I satisfy the financial requirements by submitting details of my salary here and qualify for a Spouse visa for my wife? Will the fact that I am resident in Dubai present any difficulty? Appreciate your feedback.

    David
  12. Timmers
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    On returning to live in the UK you can use earnings from Dubai with a job offer in the UK to meet the requirement.

    Alternatively which may be of interest to both yourself and Simon you can use cash savings as a way of meeting the financial requirement, you need to have £62,500 in a immediately accessible account which has been held for at least six months prior to the visa application. This way saves hassle and paperwork.

    Our second FLR(M) is due next February and I will be using cash savings as I am now self employed, applying for the visa or further leave to remain whilst self employed means you have to submit a lot more financial documents to satisfy the UKVI that you meet the financial requirement.
  13. Simonm
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    Thanks Timmers, very helpful indeed. I think as I'm confident enough to do this myself, I won't employ the services of an Immigration Lawyer.

    Hi David - as I knew I was leaving Dubai, I ensured I kept all my payslips. I also contacted the HR dept asking them to send me an 'experience letter' which confirmed what position I held and for what period. Together with this and the payslips from Dubai, and with the six months payslips I will have (at the end of Dec) with the company I am with now, should be more than enough. Hope this helps?

    Simon
  14. Timmers
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    By December having six months payslips will be just the job.

    Along with submitting six months bank statements and payslips you need to obtain a letter from your present employer stating how long you have worked for them, your salary, how long you have been paid that salary for and whether your position is temporary or permanent, all on a company headed paper of course. Regarding payslips it is a good idea to ask your line manager or HR to sign them, we leave nothing to chance.

    Regarding bank statements, they should be either original (or original copies from bank), if you have gone paperless with your statements then theoretically you should have the statements stamped on every page by your bank which in a lot of cases is easier said than done as some banks like NatWest will not do this for you. Best way if you have online statements is to order six months worth from them just before the visa application.

    Another important point whilst I remember, none of the financial documents like payslips and bank statements should be older than 28 days when you submit the online application.
  15. Simonm
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    Thanks again Timmers. I feel much more assured now. I will let the missus know.

    Ps you may know there was a 'super typhoon' in the North around two weeks ago which has knocked out a lot of electricity to homes? Local authorities have said they won't be able to fix the power for a few weeks yet! We've not been able to Skype since then. At least she has her mobile to chat with, which is something.

    Cheers
  16. DavidAlma
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    Thanks Simon, Timmers

    I am pretty much OK with the financial requirements, either 6 months salary or the £62,500 route. My concern is that I am non resident in UK for tax purposes and have no plans to move back to UK in the near future. I would like to arrange visa for my wife to accompany me on family visits back to UK and possibly in the future arrange an FLR for her.
  17. Timmers
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    At some time or other we have all been there regarding the lack of communication, its frustrating as hell I know.

    I can assure you of one thing, once your wife reaches the UK times like this are easily forgotten.
  18. Timmers
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    In that case she will have to just apply for a visit visa when she is accompanying you to the UK, she has no chance of getting a settlement visa if you are not residing in the UK, the settlement visa is what it is, a visa to settle in the UK, FLR (further leave to remain) is what you apply for after the initial visa has run out.

    One thing, you can get a long term UK visit visa, I'm guessing this would be more suitable for you, see below;

    Long-term visit visas
    If you can prove you need to visit the UK regularly over a longer period, you can apply for a visa that lasts 2, 5 or 10 years. You can stay for a maximum of 6 months on each visit.

    If you’re under 18 years old when you apply, your long-term visit visa will only be valid for up to 6 months after you turn 18.

    Fees
    A Standard Visitor visa costs £87.

    The fee for a long-term visit visa depends on its length:

    • 2 years - £330
    • 5 years - £600
    • 10 years - £752
    https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor-visa/overview

    You're going to have to put a bit of work into trying to secure a visa, long or short term, I'm sure you've read the threads here on the forum relating to getting the visa, its not always straight forward.
  19. DavidAlma
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    Thanks for that Timmers. Do you think it will be equally hard obtaining visit visa for her if she was accompanying me on a visit to UK for holiday, visiting family etc. No flight risk as she would be with me as my wife.
  20. Timmers
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    I think you have a very good chance, my reason for saying that is because both of you will be able to submit good evidence that you will be returning to Dubai instead of just the applicant, that has to add extra weight to your application in my view.

    You could both get letters from your employers giving you leave and you could also show that you are leasing property there etc. Submit anything with the application that you think ties you to the UAE. My theory is that if you can evidence that you are extremely likely to return to Dubai then it follows that your wife will.

    For a successful application you must show that you have very good reasons for returning back to the UAE/Philippines, that's the top and bottom of the application, they want to see evidence that you have strong reasons not to stay in the UK. Unfortunately Filipinos are notorious for overstaying in the UK and this is why it is sometimes a big headache getting the visa.

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