visa applications--submitting documents.

Thanks, I will try and remember all this but will no doubt ask again in 5 years when we are in this position

One think to be aware of is that HMPO won't issue a british passport when have a passport in a different name as in applying for passport in married name. May not always apply but thought they wanted passport that used to enter UK and want name to match on the passport they are issuing.

I did adoption for my wife's two oldest kids in the UK and we changed their last names so we had a single family name for all the kids. Then did passport application and ran into the issue with having passports with different surnames. Managed to sort but that was when discovered the HMPO policy which I believe also applies to changing name on marriage and having more than one passport.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ly use 'one,official UK or overseas documents.

Can’t comment on your struggles to get the passports after adoption of the children and am glad you sorted it.
There are two points of guidance on this, one being the republic law of the Philippines on retention of the nationality, the other point of guidence is in the link you have posted, I have read through this previously and the relevant paragraphs I have extracted

Customers can change their name in their passport for many reasons. While most will be genuine (for example, because of marriage) some customers may change their name to hide their true identity. When dealing with a change of name, we ask customers for evidence to help confirm their identity and to make sure there is a clear link between their old and new names.

Customers must only use ‘one name for all official purposes’, making sure the name they want to be known as on their passport, matches the name on their official UK or overseas documents.

The provision of a marriage certificate would be enough to link the old and new name (certainly was in our case),and the acceptance that providing for official purposes the one name they want to be known as matches either one of their passports. In our case my wife uses her married name as on the UK passport as her known name

my wife still uses the name she had when i first met her--no one knows her by my surname---which reminds me---

why did we get married ?--it was to comply with the spouse visa terms and conditions. Was there a way she could have gone through the 5 years settlement process if we hadnt got married ?

I did'nt and don't think there is a requirement to change your name on marriage.
I always thought it was just commonplace, expected through the ages and convenient certainly where there are children in the marriage.When children have a different surname than their mother or father, it can lead to confusion and misunderstandings, especially in situations involving school, medical care, and travel for example

Did you not live together whilst she was on a student visa, if you had for 2+ years then the partner route would of been an option, or a work visa then live together then partner route

we lived together f0r 5 mts till her student visa ran out--aug 2012..then for nearly 6 mts in 2013 when she got a visit visa..plus the few weeks in 2016 when she arrived on the fiancee visa. The point i was making--is we only got married to comply with the terms of the settlement (spouse) visa--it being the only option. It makes no difference to us--we wouldnt live any different if we hadnt got married.
Yet her sister--already settled here--went through a civil ceremony when her partner came over on a "fiancee" visa.

Hey guys can I ask, as part of the fiance application. Does only my filipina partner need to have a cenomar or both of us?

Kind regards
Richard

We intend on getting married in the UK, northern ireland. My question is do I also have to get the UK equal of a cenomar? I've no previous marriage

Cenomar is unique to philippines so no requirement for you.

So - just to clarify, @Mattecube - any existing Philippines passport CAN be left in Maiden name until it expires, even if you get a British passport in married name?
Never really considered the uses/implications of having both passports, once you get BC and a British passport, but wouldn't having them in different names just be an added complication?

Yes under republic of Philippines act9225.
Wife has used both now a couple of times no issues
The thing to remember is use the passport that holds your known name and the one that’s going to give you most flexibility and legal protection in the country your visiting.

@UKDJ Suggest you read through the link below to be aware of the potential issues of having philippines passport in maiden name and applying for a british passport in married name. No issues keeping philippines passport in maiden name as no requirement in philippines law to change name after marriage. Your potential problem is getting a British Passport as UK government policy is that only get British Passport if other overseas passports in another name are canceled or changed to reflect name in british passport. Need to avoid letting HMPO have sight of having a valid passport in maiden name if want british passport in married name. Policy is they want to see other passports to check both passports have same name before issuing.

https://www.immigrationboards.com/b...ancelled-passport-in-maiden-name-t183170.html

I disagree these links advise https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/dual-citizens/dual-nationality


https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ins when they,name on their foreign documents.

I think it is pretty clear in the links you posted that names have to align. Foreign passport in maiden name and British passport in married name will result in passports with different names. Key quote.

• they must change the name on their foreign document, so it matches the name on their passport application (which is the name they use for all official purposes)

Which is the issue in the link I posted above. Interestingly started by spouse of a filipino who fell afoul of the rule.

18 March, 2015: Passport official phoned to say a British passport cannot be issued
The reason stated was: she applied for a passport in her married name & her current (Filipino) passport (which has not been cancelled) is in her maiden name (!).

Up to @UKDJ if he wants to apply knowing that philippines passport is in maiden name and UK HMPO can refuse to issue a British passport until Philippines passport has been changed to married name or will have to apply for British passport in maiden name on the basis that is name used for all official purposes.

your reading it wrong IMHO
2 things we have been there done it got the t shirt wife has 2 passports one in her previous married name ( husband deceased) and UK one in our name and crossed borders including the Philippines with no difficulty.

The Alignment of names under the rules are this if a passport applicant has a foreign passport then the applicant must demonstrate with her foreign used name the link between her used name and her wanted name on the UK passport. Ie our marriage certificate so MRS J demonstrated by certificate containing her used name supported by her foreign passport the link to becoming MRs T
I think what you are referring to and it is directed by the UK gov is this example

Mrs Patel is applying for a UK passport she puts the application as Mrs Patel and her wanted name of Smith in the UK passport but puts forward a foreign passport which is hers with the name Miss White as the given name the connection is lost between White and Patel as her marriage certificate would show Patel to smith but her foreign passport would be White to Smith applied for by Patel
This is the sort of instances they are looking to align
Had my wife applied in her maiden name MissL and presented a passport with MRs J on it her application would of been knocked back you have to apply in your foreign given name with documents to support and request a name change in your UK passport with documents to support
Loads of UKGOV info on it will copy links out later

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...out-names-aligning-names-on-foreign-documents
section 1 first few lines

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...IDBBgAIEGIBgGQBgo&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
worth a read

Read your link in more detail, I used to read stuff on there but gave up as many raising questions appeared to be either chancres, unprepared. Sore losers I always liken it to an immigration and customs hall plenty of footfall but some trying to get through the Green lane when they should be in the red lane, anyways that’s just my opinion on that forum.
However as you’ve posted it I read it and skipped the dated ones things move on!
If you go to page 22 still 2019 things change, 7.3 has a similar response as I gave above on your link