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Reasons to avoid flying Cebu Pacific

Discussion in 'Warnings and Dangers' started by Markham, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. Markham
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    PAL still gets the cream of the crop and all its flight attendants are college graduates from the country's better universities and likely from the higher echelons demographically. Unlike many/most of their Zest or Cebu Pacific counterparts, their English diction is flawless and they're quite likely to be fluent in another regional language also. The senior members - Pursers - seem a bit remote and snobby but in general they're nice and friendly; sometimes a bit too friendly!

    Insurance?!!! IATA?!!! You're having a laugh!

    Hardly anybody buys insurance here - household, motoring or health and certainly not for (domestic) travel! Cebu Pacific does have its own travel insurance but nobody bothers as it's an added expense and not only is the cover pretty basic, there are many exclusions to limit or void liability and therefore claims. I believe the maximum pay-out is something as ridiculously low as PHP 20,000 in the event of death - that's £330; life is cheap here.

    The only airline that is an IATA member is PAL and that's one of the reasons I will book with that airline if I possibly can.
  2. walesrob
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    I remember flying Cebu Pac domestic Manila to Tacloban back in 2004. Approaching TAC from San Pedro Bay, we hit some nasty weather, and as a seasoned traveller, even I realised they had to divert, but flight commander seemed hell bent on getting into Tacloban. Only after some really nasty crosswinds did he finally see sense and divert to Cebu. It was scary stuff to say the least, even more so when the DC9 we were travelling in was older than me. On arrival in Cebu, Cebu Pac gave us 2 options: get off at Cebu and make your own way to Tacloban (back then there was no direct Tac-Cebu airlinks) or back to Manila, with no option to retry journey at later date at no charge. WTF? So we got off there and took the ferry, which was even scarier as it was badly overloaded, and I only felt safe again after docking at Ormoc.
  3. Methersgate
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    An old friend in Hong Kong used to recommend PAL on the grounds that "Their pilots are basically cowards!" Hah!

    (To be older than I, and still flying, a plane would have to be a DC3!)

    My scariest plane moment in the Philippines was courtesy of China Southern - I once had a hous in Paranaque, near the bay which was visible as you approached NAIA from the starboard side of a plane, on finals, so I was looking out in the dark - no lights. I thought "surely we are not lined up right?" - sure enough, suddenly both throttles went to TOGA and round we went - I realised the combination of Taglish and Chinglish had lined us up on Roxas Boulevard!
  4. Anon220806
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    I have flown in a DC 3 from the dessert out in Gialo to Benghazi. No windows. :D

    Inclined even at a standstill on the tarmac.
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  5. oss
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    You must have been living pretty close to Las Pinas then?
  6. Methersgate
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    Gated subdivision off Atlantic Avenue, on the reclaim, just North of Las Pinas. ;) Newly built at the time hence cheap!
  7. Methersgate
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    I love DC3s! First flight was in one - Mogadishu to Nairobi - Aden Airways - 1960! Like you I flew in a couple in Libya - popular because they could have balloon tyres for sandy strips. Tend to avoid the Filipino ones, as the maintenance may have been iffy for the past few decades, but would happily jump into a good one!

    I remember Sir Adrian Swire flying Betsy, Cathay Pacific's original DC3, into Kai Tak (she is now hanging from the ceiling in the Hong Kong Science Museum) - but he had had her "looked at carefully" first! ;)

    (CX also bought every RR engined Tri-Star - including eventually all the secondhand ones - HAECO were extremely scathing about the maintenance that had been done on them in the States - they all had the most complete type of overhaul possible before entering CX service!)
  8. oss
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    Ah Don Galo, I take it that was an approach and landing from the east?

    I can usually see our place if I am sitting starboard and our landing approach is over Cavite.
  9. Anon220806
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    That was proper flying in the old Douglas Dakota. Had a slight scare when they couldn't get the undercarriage down so we had to circle Benghastly for a couple of times until they managed it. No dancing girls or quizzes on board unfortunately.
  10. Methersgate
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    Scuse me whilst I just crawl under a rock,

    I was sitting on the PORT side, of course.

    (need smiley for d'oh!)
  11. Methersgate
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    If the undercart doesn't go down, the co-pilot gets out of his seat, picks up a tool that looks uncommonly like a vintage car starting handle, (which is probably what it is) opens a trap door in the middle of the gangway and winds until its down and locked.

    (don't ask me how I know that)

    Try THAT on an A380! ;)

    Never mind dancing girls, back in the Dawn of Time when BOAC VC10s flew between Benghazi and Tripoli en route from Aden to (eventually) Heathrow, a queue built up for the starboard aft bog. The chief purserette eventually got the pass key and found an elderly Bedu brewing up, on the floor of the bog, using a charcoal stove - about six feet from the inner of a pair of Rolls-Royce Conways. I wasn't on board for that leg, I joined for the Tripoli-London leg.
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  12. oss
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    I didn't want to be rude and point it out explicity ;) :D

    (there used to be a d'oh smiley once upon a time, Dom used it a lot ;))
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  13. Methersgate
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    I er... don't usually do that. I can tell red from green, too - I have certificates from Dr Dean of the GCBS to say so!
  14. Anon220806
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    LOL .....:like:
  15. oss
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    If it's any consolation my normal right and left are a real problem for me, no-one should rely on me for navigation in a car unless I have a computer :)

    Although I should also say that about 25% of my landings in Manila have been eastern approaches and if they had lined up on Roxas it would have been dark starboard (the sea) effectively a southern approach.

    I can just picture something big landing on the coastal road, it's almost straight enough but what would win the wings or the lamposts or the Zapote Junction :)
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  16. Anon220806
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    I know. He passed the cranking tool to you while he flew the plane.
  17. oss
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    Flights who wants to talk about flights :) just been informed that my flight is 90 minutes late which means I get to my hotel at 3am and have to be up for work at 8am :(

    I have a delay guarantee on the flight that pays back most of the cost but it's not me that benefits from that.

    Having to fly to Poland again from LPL :(
  18. Ricky
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    In terms of delays, I've had several with Cebu Pacific and Zest but generally allow and accept them knowing that I've got a bargain ticket with the possibility of hassle involved (fly PAL when I need to be somewhere for a specific time) but the worst we had was in Hong Kong.
    We were waiting for a flight with a group of around 50 people (aircraft only a 1/3 full) at the gate when at the scheduled flight time the display changed to 'delayed' and no further information. Around an hour later I used the customer services phone to call the handling agent who came to meet me. She advised that they had no information on the flight because the Philippines ATC doesn't share its information (or its modern enough) with the rest of the world so they actually didnt know whether the aircraft had taken off, was en-route or had been cancelled and wouldn't know anything until it actually entered Hong Kong airspace. She tried calling Cebu Pacific and Cebu airport but couldn't get anyone to answer her calls, so shrugged her shoulders and left us to wait.
    The aircraft arrived 5 hours late and off we went back to Cebu, no apologies, no free drinks, just a ride home on a bus with wings.
    We didn't get stressed about the situation, we just accepted it.
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