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My Filipina Wife Does Low Carb

Discussion in 'Culture and Food' started by Anon220806, Dec 14, 2020.

  1. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    My wife arrived in the U.K. in late 2011 a size 6 and 4ft 10” in height and weighing 43kg. We went out and bought kids sized clothing to fit her for the U.K. winter as soon as she touched down. Almost 8 years and one child later she weighed in at over 60 kilos about 6 weeks ago.

    We talked about her embarking upon a low carb diet and she attempted it twice over but she gave up very quickly as she found she was leaving herself hungry if she ate no rice or other starchy carbs.

    However about 6 weeks ago she decided to go for it. I think what tipped things in the end was that she saw other people on my Low Carb Facebook group achieving success and how that success was achieved. So now she eats no starchy carbs at all and has had no rice whatsoever for 6 weeks. This is quite extraordinary having consumed rice some three times a day for a huge chunk of her life. The last 10kg sack we bought is still almost full. The difference this time is she is eating healthy fats with her carb free meals and is not going hungry. She eats a standard English breakfast every morning without toast or hash browns.

    The scales and the belt size don’t lie and she is already making great strides.

    She is aiming for a target of 40kg.
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  2. bigmac
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    Well done to Mrs Ash.
    My wife goes through sacks of rice. In fact 4 x 5 kilos arrived today. But thats about the only carb she does eat.
    I cut right down on sugar spuds..rice ..pasta and bread
    .im a good stone less than my heaviest..but could lose more..but it doesnt worry me.
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  3. Anon220806
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    Well it has been troubling Mrs Ash. She wants to get back to her slimmer self and a healthier weight and avoid health problems down stream.

    My prevalent experience of this is that it doesn’t bother many folk until diagnosis of one adverse health condition or another. And then it is “Oh ****”. It’s a syndrome repeated time and time again.
    I also come across people who are happy to address the outcome with drugs. But not all are happy to be supported by drugs and prefer to reverse their condition with real food.

    I see a lot of Filipinas about that are no longer their slim selves since settling in the U.K. ( I know there are exceptions. ).

    But let’s see where this takes us. There could be members or their husbands who are in the same boat and struggle to address their conditions despite all the efforts. This will take a number of months but it has every chance of working.

    You did express concern for the availability of a vaccine for yourself. It is worth pointing out that metabolic health including weight issues compromise immunity to the ravages of Covid 19. Dietary control of your weight etc will give you that immunity.
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    What are healthy fats? More to the point which foods contain healthy fats? I'v cut down on beer and starchy foods. I have started to eat a small amount of cheese with eggs for breakfast.
    I think I'm losing a few pounds but seems to be slow. And the noise is not helping me to diet, It's giving me anxiety.
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  5. Anon220806
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    The healthy fats are dairy fats such as cheese, cream, 10% plain Greek yoghourt, full fat milk. Eggs. Avocados, oily fish e.g. salmon - see list below. The fat on meat including streaky bacon.
    Nuts. Butter. Extra Virgin olive oil.

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    The unhealthy fats include:

    Margerine
    Seed oil / Vegetable oil.

    From a sports nutritionist (Olympic atheletes) that lives a few doors up the road from me:

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    THROW THESE OILS OUT

    Firstly check me out with this little clickbait headline, I normally hate this stuff but this post is really important.

    The enemy to keto / low carb / LCHF is PUFA

    Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids

    Now these aren't inherently bad so long as they're consumed correctly. Eating whole foods such as sunflower, chai or flaxseeds are great as they're protected by antioxidants nature builds into the seed.

    However, consuming them in oil form means these protectants get stripped away during the industrial scale refining of vegetable oils.

    The refining process not only strips away antioxidants, it makes PUFAs toxic by exposing them to heat, pressure, metals and bleaching agents. This chemically alters the molecules into a wide variety of potent toxins with long names like 4-hydroxynonanal and 4-hydroxyhexanol, aldehydes, and others. These molecules are toxic because they promote free-radical reactions that damage our cellular machinery including mitochondria, enzymes, hormone receptors, and DNA.

    Our body has no choice but to store the extra PUFAs as body fat and apart from the obvious health consequences this in turn leads to inflammation.

    Whether you're embarking on a low carb diet now or on the fence and lurking to see if it's for you, do this.

    COMPLETELY remove:

    Sunflower oil
    Vegetable oil
    Rapeseed (canola) oil
    Corn oil
    Cottonseed oil
    Soy oil
    Margarine

    Cooking with these is no no - but they also hide in many products. Condiments being a big culprit (even the mayo that says made with olive oil), dried fruit, dried vegetables the list goes on. Check the labels of everything you buy.

    Unless you eat 'single ingredient' it is virtually impossible to completely eliminate these oils but try to eat products that contain them as infrequently as possible.

    Obviously takeaways and most restaurants will use these oils, they're cheap a last multiple times (each time they're used they get worse)

    I am not a saint, I have takeaways, eat out etc but I am aware of the damage I am causing. I am not advising anyone here to be a saint (unless health is critical) but just be aware and limit use.

    So what oils to use?

    Coconut oil
    Avocado oil
    Olive oil (preferably not to cook with)
    Butter + Olive oil (better to cook with)
    Macadamia Nut oil
    Ghee
    Beef Tallow / Drippings (my personal favourite)

    I've tried to avoid being too boring with this post, I could write so much more about it, why certain ones are bad what happens inside the body etc etc but the key takeaway (pun) is this:

    The list of bad oils above can undo any effort you make with LCHF, it can make whatever bad health you're experiencing now - worse.

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    Oily fish list:
    • trout
    • salmon
    • sardines
    • pilchards
    • kippers
    • eels
    • whitebait
    • mackerel
    • herring
    • tuna
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  6. bigmac
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    isnt it strange how dietary advice keeps changing.
  7. Anon220806
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    It certainly is.

    There is a lot more focus on food now than ever owing to the worldwide “pandemic” of metabolic disease. A lot of people are putting a lot of work into establishing why that is the case. And a lot of people / patients are tracking their health and food choices in a more focussed way.

    Modern technology is giving us the ability to measure the impact our food choices have on our health and on reversing our health conditions. The continuous glucose monitor is one such example and there is more to come.
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    after my heart attack in 1998 i was told to cut down--or avoid all together- a lot of fat items on your good list--butter--cream--fatty meat and processed meat--no more than 3 eggs a week--peanuts--

    now 22 years later--i just eat what i like--which is pretty well anything--but the main thing is--just dont eat too much of it all.

    i cant believe just how many massively fat young women i see waddling around. Gross.
  9. Anon220806
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    Tell me about it. We were all told the same.
    All those fat people you see waddling around don’t eat healthy fats. They eat carbohydrates of all kinds and in large quantities.

    Turn the clock back 40 or 50 years and our diets included healthy fats. We ate less carbohydrates. Turn the clock back further and man ate mainly meat including fat and very little by comparison to today in the form of carbohydrates. Levels of obesity we see nowadays appeared when we stopped eating healthy fats and began eating excessive quantities of carbohydrates.

    And here is where a lot of it started:

    https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/17/kelloggs-corn-flakes-invented-stop-masturbation-10587364/

    There is a lot of modern controversy in heart disease too @bigmac. I don’t know enough about it. Dr Aseem Malhotra is a cardiologist and he has a lot to say on stents and statins too. He spearheads the voice attached to the growing realisation however that in many cases all these conditions have their origin in the foods we eat.
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  10. bigmac
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    i see what its getting at--it is difficult to eat cornflakes whilst masturbating.. unless you're ambidextrous.
  11. Jim
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    Might spill a bit of cream.
  12. Anon220806
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    DCB4D3AF-3690-4D5B-8B3E-F804F79C26AF.jpeg Both of us eat food like this now. None of the foods in the photos contain starchy carbohydrates. No spuds, no rice, no wheat... We don’t go hungry yet we are losing weight.

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  13. DavidAlma
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    My thoughts.........bookstores and Amazon etc stock and presumably sell, bucketloads of healthy living and diet books. Surely if they worked, there wouldn't be a need for people to keep writing new ones.:confused:
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  14. Anon220806
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    Exactly. They don’t work. :D
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    I could do the steak and vegetables in the last picture but I could not do the rest.

    There is little there that I could eat.

    Cheese, boiled eggs, olives, avocado, I could not eat that, that's just me.
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    I agree, but people don't actually read them.

    A chapter or two maybe.
  17. Anon220806
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    Most diets are unsustainable over time.
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    Well that’s it. We makes our choices. A lot of people do prefer to eat other “foods” and then wonder why they put on weight or end up with a serious adverse health condition - it’s highly prevalent. I see it everywhere I go.

    In most cases if not all, reversing health conditions developed over time require some measure of sacrifice etc etc. Some people choose medicines and some surgery to deal with their condition. Others go for dietary change.

    The choices are:
    • Stay as you/we are - no change
    • Surgery
    • Drugs / medicines
    • Dietary change.
    We takes our pick. I prefer dietary change myself.

    @bigmac puts a winner stamp to your post. But it is definitely not a winner with all the people that are ill up and down the country. All those people that are being picked out by Covid19 because of their underlaying health conditions. They are not winners. All the over weight people, those with heart conditions, those that end up with leg or foot amputations etc etc because of their dietary choices. They are not winners. :lol:

    @bigmac. I would personally like to avoid having a stent fitted.
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    I would have liked to have confined this thread to keeping a record of Mrs Ash’s progress in such a way that it might help anyone on this forum site reverse their weight, or any other health condition. As is often the case it is developing in such a way that it will be useful to nobody and simply a record of disagreement.
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    i lived in Gosport for a few years. Its terrain is flat. Ive never lived in a place so flat.

    There were also a great deal of very fat women there.

    i realised--the women were so fat because there were no hills to walk up and down--insufficient exercise!

    then--i had second thoughts:

    Gosport is so flat because generations of very fat women have trampled it flat.
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