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Discussion in 'Warnings and Dangers' started by David jordan, Dec 21, 2016.

  1. tipipay
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    If we will not support his governance, Philippines will fall into pieces. There will be chaos everywhere. But so far, I can see that he's doing everything he can to "fix" this country. His passion to provide services and uplift the lives of every Filipino is there. Why pull someone down when he's trying and working hard to make this country better? We can't expect an "automatic" answer, but there are changes... changes for the better.

    Presidents come and go. If the administration is moving forward to help this country, who are we to stop them? I love my country. This may be a third-world but I'm hoping and wishing that Philippines will soon rise to become better.
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  2. Aromulus
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  3. graham59
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    graham59 Banned

    Most of these old codgers can't sing anymore anyway, and should have retired years ago. :erm:
  4. oss
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    http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/12/22/16/promoter-speaks-up-on-cancelled-james-taylor-show

    On any general search I made I could find no historic pattern of James Taylor ever cancelling concerts apart from this one in Manila, he may well have cancelled gigs in the past but there certainly was not much fuss made about it.

    The people I know over there are very familiar with James Taylor's music and the sales pattern described in the link I post above is probably correct for the demographic that would turn out for Taylor in Manila.
  5. Maharg
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    That's just based on something on Facebook! Hardly the most reliable source. It's a common thing these days, actually, where entire news stories are made based on a couple of posts on Twitter or Facebook. (It seems that even this story comes from the promoter's post on Facebook!)

    This is official from the concert promoter: http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/12/22/16/promoter-speaks-up-on-cancelled-james-taylor-show

    He says the show was on track to becoming a sell out, but Taylor "made a political statement".

    I also know from buying tickets to Filipino concerts and also for concerts in the UK from Filipino singers that concerts can look like they will not sell many tickets only to sell out with a late burst of sales close to the actual date.
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  6. Bootsonground
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    I would bet my House on him spilling that venue over with fans...Had it happened.
  7. Bluebird71
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    So, because Taylor was once a drug addict, it is now acceptable to kill him? I read the Facebook comments on Taylor's page, and it was sobering reading - the weapon of choice on that forum was to allude any person with a different viewpoint was involved in drugs, a dangerous accusation at any time.

    85% of Filipinos are supportive of the War on Drugs. 78% are fearful of being caught in a cross-fire. Sadly 3 toddlers have been caught in the cross-fire.

    http://www.philstar.com/opinion/2016/12/26/1656867/fearful-cops-not-criminals
  8. Bluebird71
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    Sadly.
  9. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I don't propose to waste time in mudslinging with the perverted creatures who affect to admire and support Duterte, a man who has managed to trash his nation's reputation in six months, and who will bring it to the verge of bankruptcy soon enough.
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  10. Methersgate
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    I respectfully suggest that your country's finances are becoming more "third world" by the day. Duterte is by his own admission a man who, as a Public Prosecutor, tampered with evidence, and who as Mayor of Davao committed murders. He travels abroad with a retinue of hundreds of hangers-on, at the public expense. His Budget is a national shame, with its huge allocations of secret funds.

    Foreign direct investment other than Chinese has, for all practical purposes stopped. Multinational corporations have no confidence in the legal system, and they have seen how the President has acted to force businessmen to hand over control of their companies to his cronies. Unemployment and under employment are both rising. Government borrowing is on the increase.

    The Philippines is not going to "rise to become better" under this murdering thug.
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  11. Timmers
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    So, you're calling the majority of Filipinos perverted creatures?
  12. Methersgate
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    No.

    I am doubting the meaning ascribed to the results in the SWS poll from which those figures are taken. The majority of people are fearful, that's clear. But that very fear may well account for their reported "support" for the "war on drugs".

    In this country, we saw a "surprise" result in the last General Election, because many people who planned to vote Conservative, and did so, denied that they were planning to do so when responding to opinion pollsters' questions.

    In the Philippines, where the power wielded over the common tao by the men in power is very much greater than it is in this country, (where the Police seldom ride around on the back of motorbikes killing people, and indeed where the Police seldom kill people at all) the likelihood of an honest answer to the question "do you support the Government?" is very much less likely.

    We are already starting to see the scale of Duterte's "social media" operations - look at the vast size of his "intelligence" budget. Look at the huge number of fake social media accounts, all trolling for him to a pattern.

    The majority of Filipinos are not perverted creatures, but the minority who are deceiving and terrifying them are.
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  13. tipipay
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    How come you disagree with this @Methersgate ?
  14. tipipay
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    OMG!!! :erm::erm::erm::erm::erm::erm:
    We will all agree to disagree in the end.
    But your logic on this matter is just so ****. I'm sorry but sometimes some people should just shut up especially when they don't know the "real" issue. It's a pity to hear such words from someone who's not here.:rolleyes:
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  15. tipipay
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    Oh my God! You should really research more! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  16. tipipay
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    I better shut my mouth. Some people have already pre-conceived ideas that whatever facts or statements you present them, they won't try to understand. Maybe you should try to research more and open your minds.
    This country has already suffered enough. THE SINALOA DRUG CARTEL HAS ALREADY ENTERED THE COUNTRY before DUTERTE. What do you want the government to do? Just let it be? And make this country a drug capital of Asia?
    Whoever becomes the President next time, I hope @Methersgate will atleast appreciate even the slightest effort made by that man/woman.

    I'm just wasting my time typing on this matter. This issue is deeper that you thought. More research please. I will move on on this matter and let @Methersgate stay and do more research. Or he can present more ideas and try to convince me that this administration is EVIL.
    Bless your minds. ;)
    Let's all agree to disagree.
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  17. Bluebird71
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    Just to add facts/research to this - the PSEI has dropped from 7796.25 to 6563.67 between June 30th and December 23rd. That's a drop of 15.81% in the value of the biggest companies in the country.

    The Thai stock exchange rose 7% in the same period
    Singapore dropped 6%
    China up 6%

    $1 = 46.98 PHP on June 30th, it is trading at 49.59PHP = $1 today - a devaluation of 5.56%. Usually, a drop in the currency means a rise in the stock markets, but not in this case. The effect of the currency devaluation is that inflation has risen from 1.9% in June to 2.5% in November. That inflation rate is quite healthy, by the way, and not a cause for concern. It is forecast to rise to 2.8% in the next 3 months.

    The trade deficit - $2.16bn in October 2016, the highest since April. That's about 0.7% of GDP, whilst external debt is about $77.5bn - about 26.5% of GDP (also quite healthy). That's based on 2015's GDP and 2015's external debt.
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  18. Methersgate
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    The odd feature of the Philippines economy is that, like Somalia and almost nowhere else, it depends heavily on inward remittances from overseas workers and other expatriate citizens to balance its trade account.

    This in turn means that to some extent the trade balance is "inflation proofed" as the value of remittances in pesos rises as the peso devalues, whilst the cost of imports rises.

    The most important import is of course fuel. In the event that the oil price rises, things will look very different, very fast.

    So far as the Philippine banking system is concerned, the most important borrower, by a country mile, is the Government. We see this at work in the adjacent thread on San Miguel - the nations largest industrial enterprise borrows mainly not from Philippines banks but from overseas banks. The PSBR soaks up pretty much all available bank deposits. Up to now, the Government has been able to keep its PSBR more or less in line. This administration's penchant for cash hand outs and its stated enthusiasm for infrastructure spending, without any apparent enthusiasm for improving the oversight of infrastructure spending, which has been lamentable in the past, seem likely, in the view of most commentators, to increase the PSBR to the point at which foreign borrowing will be essential.

    I'd like to draw attention to the point that the numbers cited by Bluebird represent reversals of the trends established last year and earlier this year.
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  19. Aromulus
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    I never said or advocated anything of the sort.

    I stated in the past, that I do not agree with the methods of Duterte's campaign to combat the drug trade and use, but I don't think that me telling him off about it is going to do any good.

    The Filipino people, democratically elected who they wanted as their President by, I believe, a considerable majority, and I respect this fact.
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    I wonder if tipipay will be back after her tampo. :eek:

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