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I need a BIG help please..

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Simplejho, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. Simplejho
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    Simplejho New Member

    Me and my fiance are getting married next year Jan 2013. I am a British Citizen and he is a Filipino Citizen. People told me that I need a certificate of no impediment that I can get in my local registry. Okay thats no problem with me but my question is reading all the new rules of immigration, how can I bring him here in UK if I am not earning £18,000 in a year. I am currently working in a hospital clinic but I dont earn £18 grant in a year. Can someone advice me with this situation please. I really really need a big help :(
  2. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    We are all in the same boat in this regard Simplejho :(

    I think there are going to be a lot of people going to court over this legislation which is discriminating against British citizens on the basis of how rich they are.

    These laws are being brought in to restrict immigration with the implication that most foreign marriages are sham marriages, if they want to eliminate sham marriages then they should tighten the proof of relationship rules not implement financial discrimination rules.

    These new laws are completely out of order, it's not just us westerners with partners in poor countries this applies to anyone, imagine you are a young person and go on a sponsored holiday to Australia for a month or two, you meet someone and fall in love, both of you are poor so the government says tough, but if you are rich enough well sure you can bring your partner here no problem as long as you pay us the right fee's year after year after year!!

    How about they just make a law that says dumb 16 year olds in the UK can't marry if they don't have a job earning over 25 grand a year, even if they already have children, lets extend that idea, how about you simply are not allowed to marry anyone in the UK if you are poor!!!!

    Oh yeah that will go down well with the upper classes, makes me absolutely sick to my stomach completely out of order.

    There is not a lot any of us are going to be able to do if this becomes law except challenge it in the courts, hopefully some lawyers will get together to deal with the large numbers of cases that are bound to result from this law.
  3. Simplejho
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    I am feeling down at the moment, I just dont know what to do. Why is it all about financial rules. I want to marry him because I love him but how can I bring him here if I dont have enough money in my account. :((
  4. Simplejho
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    Simplejho New Member

    I am already a British Citizen, am I still included in all of that Tier1-5?
  5. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Me too, for lots of reasons I am feeling very depressed right now and a large part of it is related to the extra costs imposed by these new rules.

    Me and my partner have spent 7 years getting to the point where we could even get married and now that we can get married we have new rules and no idea how much it's going to cost over a five year probationary period.

    Plus I have other financial problems and am not even certain the company I work for will still be in business in a couple of years.
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    I would not imagine that would be the case, if you are a Brit already then you are in exactly the same position as the rest of us Brits I would think, with regards to these new rules.
  7. Simplejho
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    We have been together for over 7 years but apart and now we are happily planning everything, but its just sad coz it looks like that all of our plans will go to nothing:(
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    Kuya The Geeky One Staff Member

    The EEA family permit route is the way round these rules if indeed they get implemented, though that would be a pain in the neck as it means moving to another European country and working there for at least six months before coming home to the UK.

    Given the recession, that would be pretty hard on anyone taking that route…

    And yeah, I am also peeved with these new discriminatory rules being thought over by Theresa May MP:frust:
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    I have spoke to a Lady from visa enquiries, and she just told me
    that everything is in the website and yes if I dont have
    £18,000 in my account my husband to be visa will be automatically denied:(
  10. oss
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    No it does not mean you have to have savings of 18,000 pounds nobody currently requires savings anywhere near that amount.

    The proposal that was published last November was for a minimum income of between 18,600 and 25,700 per year but this has been changed recently and they are now proposing a minimum of 25,700 per year.

    You can find the existing published proposal here http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2011/november/30-family-route the new proposals for a higher earnings limit are leaked information and not yet real government policy as far as I know.
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    That was the lady told me and Im just like are you sure that I need £18,000 in my account and she said yes because I need to show them that I can support him when he enters UK. I hope that all of this is not true. Anyone can tell me what is the best thing to do. Get married and try to bring him here or move to different country?
  12. Kuya
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    Savings are not a requirement, though if you have some savings then they can and do count towards proving that you are not in debt. At this moment in time a steady income with a full time job would be sufficient, but the potential new rules would mean only well off people could bring a spouse to the UK.

    I am 100% sure these proposed rules will be deemed unlawful, but the question would be for how long before a judge gets hold of them?
  13. Simplejho
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    Kuya, for example I am earning 14k and I have 4k in my savings. Do you think that would be enough to bring my husband to be in the uk?
  14. Kuya
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    Under the current rules - YES!

    So long as you can provide 6 months worth of bank statements, wage slips and a P60 showing your yearly income you would qualify on financial reasons alone. Remeber though, there are housing rules to follow too...
  15. Simplejho
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    Kuya, I only live with my parents and I am helping mum every month. When is the housing rules coming up?
  16. Kuya
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    There are rules on overcrowding that you have to follow, it is fine if you live at home with your parents and a 2 bedroom house will be suitable if there are three adults living there (You, your mother, your husband). However, if there will be four adults living at this property then it should be ideally a 3 bedroom house.

    Though if you really had to I guess you could get a one bedroom flat for yourself and your husband to live in!
  17. Simplejho
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    My parents got a 2 bedroom semi detached house. If my husband to be comes over do we really need to move and have our own flat or we can stay in my parents house:-/
  18. Kuya
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    Actually... I think I gave you wrong info just there.. There are strict rules on overcrowding but the UKBA looks at rooms, such as living rooms and not just bedrooms (though kitchen and bathrooms are excempt).. I was thinking in terms of bedrooms.

    You should be fine.

    Here are the official UKBA guidelines
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Sorry for everyone here who will be denied their loved ones - as the present legislation appears to indicate.
    A real bummer :frust:
  20. Simplejho
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    Simplejho New Member

    Thank you very much Kuya:)

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