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Government announces major changes to legal immigration, increased minimum income requirement

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by Skellum, Dec 4, 2023.

  1. John Surrey
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    I know you're a Tory and I'd love to think you are right but I don't think you are...

    When all the news sites and many Barrister/Solicitor sites are clearly telling me the "Salary threshold to qualify to bring a foreign spouse to UK will be £38,700"

    I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee, accept you and many others have been conned by these self-serving Tory scumbags and face the truth... sadly Fergie isn't the VAR box to reverse this one :D

    Personally, I don't think care workers on reduced wages or students of any kind should be allowed to bring over their partner's dependents but to lump ordinary UK men and women into the same bracket as those two categories is simply wrong.

    And dare I say it:

    If my grandfather, who fought in WWII, was alive today to witness:

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    these two Tory a-holes telling 75% of the UK population they cannot bring their chosen partner, from another part of the world, to make a life with them in the UK and live, he'd turn in his grave.
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  2. PhilPensioner
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    'Commentators' were bleating about it being unnacceptable for foreign healthcare workers (for example) to have to leave their families behind.

    What the hell do they think the other millions of OFWs all over the world do ?

    What did my own father do , when serving in the RN for 30 years...take us with him aboard ship ?

    Perhaps train sufficient British staff and pay them properly.
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  3. John Surrey
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    You know I am a Tory! Bolloc@s! Have you ever seen my voting paper?
    Your doing your usual wild sweeping statement again!
    Never voted Tory in my life.
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  5. John Surrey
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    My wild sweeping statements? :D


    "New laws designed to slash the number of migrants by 300,000 a year risk splitting up families already living in the UK.

    Brits could see their foreign partners told to leave the country the next time their visa comes up for renewal – if their household does not earn £38,700, No 10 said.
    The move is part of plans to cut net migration after it soared to nearly three-quarters of a million in 2022.
    Experts, however, warned the planned crackdown was causing distress for many.

    Downing Street defended the policy, saying it was right that “if you are bringing someone into the country you are able to support them”


    The Independent goes on to say:

    Asked if it would apply to partners when they came to renew their visas, No 10 said the change was “not retrospective, but it would apply to renewals in the future”.

    At that point, people would be expected to “meet the visa requirements of the day”.
    The prime minister’s official spokesperson added: “People always have a set length of time for their visas and will be aware at the conclusion of that visa time that they don’t have a guarantee that they will obviously remain in the country.”

    Madeleine Sumption, the director of the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford, said the changes would make the UK an outlier among western nations.

    “This is definitely completely different to what any other high-income country does,” she said.

    Exactly - wtf is wrong with the UK ?
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  6. Mattecube
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  7. John Surrey
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    And what about the poor buggers who have just met the £18,600 threshold, shelled out £5k or more to get their partners in to the UK and are now sitting there knowing they won't be able to meet the new threshold of £38,700?
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  8. John Surrey
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    Perhaps you should be gracious enough to admit you got it wrong first?
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  10. PorkAdobo
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    Why? Students are not here permanently and few of them have the desire to remain here permanently. If their partners are not a burden on the welfare state, what's the problem with them being here as well?

    And I don't think the UK is the only country with a lack of care workers. If those people are here on a more permanent basis and again their partners are not allowed to become a burden on the welfare state, why shouldn't we make the lives of care workers that bit better by allowing them to continue their family life?
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  11. bigmac
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    one of the main problems with importing overseas workers in the care / health sector is accommodation..more so if families join them. Rentable housing is now in very short supply--and expensive. Lots of existing renters being forced out as landlord sell up.

    Also--the kids need schooling and medical care.
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  12. Mattecube
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    That isn’t the topic of my response stop deflecting admit you have no idea how I vote!
    Tut tut
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  13. Mattecube
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    What’s a Ukipper? I’ve heard of smoked kippers!
  14. John Surrey
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    Speaking of kippers... late one tonight @Jim ... 4:15am kick off :D
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  15. Jim
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    Early one, I got up at 3:30 am. Poor game.
  16. John Surrey
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    You and me both, Chelsea very lucky to get away with a 2-1 defeat.:(
  17. UKDJ
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    I don't think ANYTHING is too extreme for this shower, in their desperation to cling to power...!
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  18. bigmac
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    i think--if the new earnings requirement does apply to settlement visas--then the gov has shot itself in the foot. Each be would-be application that doesnt meet the minimum will mean a significant loss of visa fees over the 5 year period. Also--those already in the 5 year process--that dont meet the new minimum--what happens to them--especially if they now have babies born here ?
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  19. Skellum
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    I'm hopeful that there will be some very harsh back-tracking or amendments once the legal challenges start coming in.
    I've seen quotes from charities saying it breaches human rights so it only takes a few of those cases and suddenly these 'changes' get held up in redtape whilst a court decides on the outcome.
  20. UKDJ
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    The loss of fees would be insignificant to the government, but this would be seen as a triumph to all the far-Right voters supporting them.
    With regard to those already on the Visa journey - as others have said - it could be seen as a breach of human rights to deny future Visas on the new financial requirement grounds alone, not to mention for those where kids have subsequently arrived on the scene.
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