Fool of a Blinkered Europhile.

Pot calling the kettle black immediately springs to mind there.

Half truths and lies are politics wherever you are in the world.

I find his comments a little worrying and offensive to the British people.

I'm worried that when negotiations finally get underway to exit the EU that the EU will bring their own bitterness at Brexit into the negotiating room.

Lets just hope they can act like grown ups and strike a deal that is agreeable by both parties.

This is the man who yesterday made it very plain that a country called "Europe" was about to be born and, of course, this flies in the face of what Remainers have been telling us in the run-up to the referendum. His announcement of the formation of a European Army might, on the surface, seem innocent enough at first glance. Except of course, countries have armies, trade blocs do not.

In order to have an army, you need a common language. Chaos would reign and it would be exceedingly dangerous if squaddies spoke (say) French, NCOs Italian and officers German. And then there is the not inconsiderable barrier imposed upon Germany whose armed forces have a homeland defence-only role.

Yes they are. Very offensive.

I think Britain should not initiate any talks relating to a trade agreement with Europe. As Juncker and the Commission is hell-bent on wreaking revenge on the UK for daring to leave and as any trade agreement would benefit the EU more than the UK, we hold an ace or two. The EU will expect - nay demand - we have a trade agreement with them but let it be on our terms. I do expect Brexit talks to fail but to Britain's advantage.

The US will want a trade agreement with us what with TTIP not going to happen any time soon and other countries are reportedly queuing up to sign agreements now that the UK is in a position to act on its own behalf.

Juncker, like his predecessor, Van Rompuy, is just another nasty spoilt little European federalist who screams and shouts if he doesn't get his way.

you appear to approach the Europe subject with venom in your words.
Admittedly Junker is a bit of a maverick and diplomacy is definitively not his best trait, and his personality is what itis... Too drastic.

I am not to keen myself, but hey, what business is of mine to go on and on and on about something that my opinion won't help to change a bean.......... and which has SFA to do with what this forum is for.

Perhaps they will all speak German.

Bit mischievous there Andrew. I could reply and say that the words most likely weren't sppken with venom and mention the value of debate but... you know what I'm going to say already!

It's been tried before, remember:

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Oh hardly! An observation that anyone in their right mind would make, I suggest Just as they would note the venomous vitriol spewing forth whenever Juncker has mentioned the UK since the referendum.

Juncker undoubtedly has a small group of Anglo-loathing acolytes in the capitals of Europe who punch the air and shout "hurrah" whenever Juncker delivers one of his Anglo-phobic speeches. Two of them, one French one German, having passed the "hatred of Britain" test, have had their loyalty rewarded by being placed in charge of the Brexit process on behalf of the Commission. The trouble is Juncker is too arrogant and vain to realise that he has made himself one of the most hated men in Europe - and not just by the Brits.

From Juncker's perspective, the only way Britain will be able to trade with the EU is via the Single Market mechanism and with all that that entails. That is not going to be acceptable to the seventeen and a half million who voted for Brexit and the smart folks in Europe know that. Do you really think that German manufacturers are going to allow one of their most important export markets to disappear? Or French, Spanish, Italian and Danish farmers? Or the Dutch? No, of course they're not and you and I both know that. Those countries will push very hard for a trade agreement with Britain and if one is blocked by Juncker and the Commission, that could spell the beginning of the end of the EU project.

In a recent letter to EU leaders, Tusk said it would be “a fatal error” to assume that the UK vote was a specifically British issue, describing it as “a desperate attempt to answer the questions that millions of Europeans ask themselves daily” about security, cultural heritage and way of life.

This view is found across EU institutions. “Brexit is a symptom of broader issues,” one EU diplomat said. “It is not as such the decisive factor, it is a wakeup call.”

Many Brussels insiders see little chance of repairing the bloc while France and Germany are preoccupied with elections in 2017.

Donald Tusk, the European council president who chairs EU leaders’ summits, hopes to cool tempers in Slovakia after Luxembourg’s foreign minister called for Hungary to be thrown out of the EU for allegedly treating asylum seekers “worse than wild animals”. Hungary counterattacked with stinging criticism of the grand duchy’s record in helping big corporations avoid tax.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...k-urges-eu-leaders-not-to-waste-brexit-crisis

Talk about hypocrisy: Juncker is demanding that Ireland be fined for something identical to his sweetheart deals with multinationals when he was the duchy's prime minister. Had Apple located its HQ in Luxembourg and not Ireland, it would have paid the same derisory amount of tax but would not now be in the spotlight for doing so.

As I'm sure you know, Dom, almost all those you named are former members of the Social Democratic Party which split from Labour in 1981 partly due to Labour's then anti-EEC stance. One does have to wonder why a party that purports to support democracy - and has that word in its title - is in such fawning admiration for the very undemocratic EU institution that it blindly worships. The EU merely has a nodding acquaintanceship with democracy but the real power is wielded by one man, a sock puppet for the founding triumvirate. What started as a humble trading bloc is now to become a sovereign nation state, in actuality a virtual dictatorship. I can well understand why the SDP supported Britain's membership of the EEC but the EU now - never mind what it will become in the future - is a very different animal indeed. And yet they love it so.

It will be interesting to see which speech the madman Juncker slips this awful event into!!


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/3-illegal-immigrants-arrested-19-195937953.html

Hi
Do not worry about Juncker

NIGEL is watching him
He has our back
Lol

This is why "they" are so adamant on preserving free movement - so that all these vicious sex attacks are spread more widely throughout Europe. This allows "them" to wring their hands and look sorrowful whilst telling us "it's a Europe-wide problem" and not actually do anything about it which they would have to if it were localised.

We should just knock the idea of remaining in the single market on the head and take a major sticking point out of the negotiations.

Stopping free movement is the number one reason the British people voted to come out of the EU.