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FLR (M) and Passport Renewal

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Daisy, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I am going to play devils advocate here and come from an angle of bureaucracy.
    Why not report the marriage it is a requirement of your wife's current nationality, what are you trying to hide? Is the marriage really just a sham?
    If you pay little heed to the requirements of your wife's homeland are you going to apply the sa.e disregard to the UK rules and regs?
    You describe what at present your wife's future passport path looks like but things change you may want kids and have them hold duel citizenship! Your wife might decide she wants duel citizenship as having this benefits travel arrangements for periods of stay and also entry to her homeland during any future crisis ie covid.
    For the amount of time it takes to complete the form far out ways the potential benefits in the future.
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  2. Manage
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    Thank you for taking the time and trouble to reply.
    I was not aware that not making a report of Marriage would impact on my wife 's dual citizenship.
    It just seems like a lot of hassle and expense (form filling, solicitors signature etc.) to go through for little benefit.
  3. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    what i dont understand about dual nationality is--when my wife gets british nationality she does-=de facto-=lose her philippine nationality automatically--yet her most recent phil passport still has 8 years to run. So--when she gets her british passport--which one would she use to travel with ?

    What would she re-gain if she then applied for dual nationality ?

    Does the UK passport office notify the philippines when shes granted citizenship ?
  4. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Yes she loses the Filipino passport after becoming a BC and needs to reapply through the Filipino embassy in London for her Filipino nationality back.
    Duel citizenship while the British passport is recognised as one of the strongest in the world there are benefits for holding duel.
    If she wanted to stay in the Philippines for a longer period of 30 days she can use her Filipino nationality and stay longer, the Philippines passport is stronger in some Asian countries for visa types than British.
    Health care whilst traveling back in the Philippines maybe better and cheaper when traveling on her Filipino passport rather than he British.
    Current covid situation she could go back on Philippines passport now but not on a British one.
  5. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    how does she lose her phil passport ?

    i'm wondering what advantages she would have even applying for british citizenship ?--given the cost and timescale involved.
  6. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Based on the Philippine Constitution, once a Filipino citizen acquired new citizenship (naturalisation) from another country, you will automatically lose your Filipino citizenship and have to apply for the re-acquisition / retention to the nearest Philippine embassy or consulate.29 May 2021
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  7. bigmac
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    yep--i read that elsewhere--i can only assume the uk passport people must notify the Philippine embassy..but does she have to surrender her phils passport ?

    does she get the right to vote in the UK when she gets her ILR--or does she need citizenship for that ?
  8. Maharg
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    Surely if sh wants to apply for British citzenship in her married name, her Philippines passport and BRP will need to be in her married name.

    For her Philipines passport and BRP to be in her married name, the marriage needs to be reported.

    It is a pain in the arse though. I got into an argument with the jobsworths at the Philippines embassy when we went to do it because, having done exactly what the embassy website said we needed to do, the bloke behind the desk helpfully informed us that the website is out of date.

    We then had to go away and order an official marriage certificate from The Philipoines (despite getting married in the UK) and go back again at a later date.
  9. UKDJ
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    All this sounds like a great money-spinner for both the UK & Philippines -

    Whether the UK stipulates that the applicant must relinquish their birth nationality in order to 'gain' British citizenship, or the Philippines (or any other nation!) states that if one of their citizens applies for UK (or any other nation's!) citizenship they will automatically lose their birth nationality, seems like a scam - especially when they can 'buy back' their original nationality!
  10. Mattecube
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    My wife's current passport and BRP are in her maiden name we intend to apply for BC in her married name so her UK passport will be in her married name
  11. Mattecube
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    It appears to be just a Philippines constitutional thing

    British citizen
    who acquires citizenship of another country is not required to renounce their British nationality. Similarly, a foreign national who wishes to become a British citizen is not required to renounce their original nationality.20 Aug 2019
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  12. bigmac
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    bloody typical: no divorce..expensive annulment..CFO ..now this.
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  13. Manage
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    Manage New Member

    Yes bigmac......Philippines petty bureaucracy???? We are going to give this Report of Marriage business a little more thought. It doesn't seem worth the time, effort and expense to me.
    An interesting discussion though
  14. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    You may want to consider that if you don't report your marriage within a year there is a bit more bureaucracy in that you will have to fill in an affidavit of" late reporting of marriage" which will be more time effort and cost!
    More fun in the Philippines :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  15. Manage
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    Manage New Member

    I take your point Mattecube but even the Report of Marriage requires a solicitor's signature and seal nowadays. More hassle, time and expense.
  16. Jim
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    Jim Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    My wife's Phil passport ran out a few years back, how long does a new Phil passport last? old one only last 5 years!
  17. Mattecube
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    10 years
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  18. UKDJ
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    That's interesting, if it's specifically a Philippines 'thing'...
  19. UKDJ
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    Is that a new requirement?

    We reported our marriage in 2019 and all it took was downloading and completing a form from the Philippines Embassy - and a fee, of course!
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  20. Br28016
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    Think that is if do remotely and just send in the paperwork. Can still make appointments at the embassey to report marriage, births and deaths.

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