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Filipino netizens react to Duterte alcohol ban proposal

Discussion in 'News from The Philippines' started by Timmers, May 11, 2016.

  1. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

  2. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    I quiet like the minors curfew:)
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  3. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I agree, there is some sense in that.

    Like Trump in the US, Duterte will make me follow the politics in the Philippines closer, he has that "what the hell will he do next" factor.

    He could turn out to be a good and popular leader, a little discipline never hurt anyone :)
  4. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I suppose if he helps his countrymen fight corruption, he will be seen as a saviour to many Filipinos.
  5. Timmers
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    I'm sort of feeling good and bad vibes about the chap, if he can fight corruption then that will be great but something tells me in the back of my mind that he too will succumb to corruption, I hope I'm wrong though for the sake of the Filipino people, they deserve a lot better leader than they've had in recent times.

    Maybe I should try to be more positive about politics in the Philippines but its difficult given its political history.
  6. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    My missus says he banning fireworks on New Years Eve too.
  7. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Whatever we all thought about some of his comments, he is now in power, except for the signing formalities.
    I was telling my wife that Duterte has shocked me because every Filipino I have known has been very polite and courteous.
    Here is a man who is not bothered about ruffling feathers and insults seem to fly. He seems to wear his heart on his sleeve and has no problem shooting from the hip.
    If he can use the power he has to good use, perhaps the Philippines can change for the good.

    For people who have married Filipinos, we all know that there is no subservience from our wives - we all know how Filipinas are serene but they have a steely core that should not be irritated.
    Duterte reminds me of this steely core.
  8. Methersgate
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    Why the future tense? What honest man needs to have 41 houses, some in the name of his teenage son, and 17 bank accounts, far from where he lives? All on a mayor's salary, be it noted.
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  9. Timmers
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    I'm guessing then Andrew that you suspect or know he's already as bent as a nine bob note :)
  10. Methersgate
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    Just reading the papers. These were amongst the allegations made by Trillanes. Trillanes and Cayetano brought the allegations against Binay that brought about his downfall. Cayetano was Duterte's choice of running mate as VP. Duterte said he would waive his rights under the invidious Bank Secrecy Law (sponsored by that paragon of rectitude and wife of the former Director of the Bureau of Customs, Miriam Defensor Santiago) if Trillanes named his source. Trillanes did, in a fashion, but Duterte didn't. Personally I suspect that Trillanes' source is in fact NICA, who have the (British!) technology to look into bank accounts at will, and who may not be terribly happy with Duterte's positions on China, on the NPA and on the Islamists.
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  11. aposhark
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    If we assume that all politicians line their pockets, we have to ask what else do they bring to the table.
  12. Methersgate
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    These are all bright ideas from the President-elect. However, under the Constitution, the President cannot enact legislation. Duterte does not have much by way of a political party in the House and very little in the Senate. We can assume that he can buy support in the House by using the same methods as the outgoing President and his predecessors - the PDAF. But that won't work in the Senate.

    Duterte also says that he wants to change the Constitution. That means either a coup d'etat. for which he would need the PDF, or a Constitutional Convention which would take a couple of years.
  13. aposhark
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    Duterte has already supposedly insulted the Pope.

    I hope he will lessen the influence the Catholic Church has.
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  14. aposhark
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    Duterte religion (from Wiki):

    Despite being raised as a communicant of the Catholic Church, on January 19, 2016, while meeting with businessmen in Binondo, Manila, he clarified that he has not attended Mass for quite some time already since he deemed it incompatible with his mayoral responsibilities: "(Kung) pakinggan ko 'yang Ten Commandments, pati 'yong pari diyan, wala na akong magagawa sa pagka-mayor ko" ("If I listened to the Ten Commandments or to the priests, I would not be able to do anything as a mayor"). Duterte then clarified that he had not abandoned God, only "forfeited" his religion for the meantime.[80]
  15. Methersgate
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    Not necessarily.

    See where this comes from:

    http://www.cbcpnews.com/cbcpnews/?p=76531
  16. graham59
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    He's certainly starting to sound like a wannabe dictator.

    I can agree with the alcohol ban, plus the curfew on (young) children.

    What I would most like to see though, is the enforcement of litter/basura-dumping laws !

    The whole country is a damned disgrace... litter and garbage everywhere !
    Drains choked up, watercourses and the marine environment polluted. :mad:

    Good habits cost nothing.
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  17. Methersgate
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    He can't just issue "decree laws" like Marcos used to do, unless he declares martial law and makes himself a dictator.

    The President cannot make laws; that is the job of the House and the Senate. And whilst almost half the Senate are Liberals his own party is nowhere. Remember the troubles Aquino had with the sin tax, the RH Law, and the impeachment of Corona? And Aquino had the support of the Liberal Party!

    So it's all pie in the sky, unless he can bully and bribe the House ( - that used to be quite easy - give them some PDAF - "pork barrel") - and the Senate (very much more difficult - Senators are elected on a national franchise for six years, so its not easy to bully or buy them).

    He must know this so we must assume that he is looking for an excuse to declare Martial Law.

    He also wants to change the Constitution - and has said that he will send in the Army to close the Senate and the House... but he doesnt have the support of the Armed Forces. Indeed if I am right the leaks about his bank account come from the National Intelligence Co-Ordination Agency - "NICA" which is the Philippines version of the CIA or MI6, so some in the Armed Forces are quite hostile - as you would expect given that Duterte has flip flopped on the South China Sea and is friendly with Joma Sison the head of the NPA.
  18. CampelloChris
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    Relatives wearing coats with big, deep pockets.
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  19. Markham
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    The one place in the Philippines where it is most unwise to drop even a sweetie paper on the ground is Davao City where dropping used chewing-gum can drastically lighten your wallet. The city has anti-litter and anti-fly-tipping ordinances that enforced. He may well "encourage" other cities and municipalities to adopt similar bye-laws.

    I think that is a reasonable assumnption and whilst I disagree with Martial Law on principle, there is a case for a short period (2 or 3 years) of benevolent dictatorship to bring about seed changes in the way the country operates and is governed - a parliamentary model of federalism and all that.

    I'm told that he was questioned about this during the second Candidates' Debate in Cebu and categorically-pledged to continue to defend the country's sovereignty by peaceful means.
    He came to an accommodation with Sison whereby the NPA does not operate anywhere in Davao City (and, I'm told, Davao Del Sur as well). He is also friendly with several moderate Muslim leaders.
  20. Bootsonground
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    Cant he do what Barry did numerous times to get laws passed?? What do they call those things?? Executive orders?

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