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Duterte ‘squarely blames’ Catholic church for steep population rise

Discussion in 'News from The Philippines' started by Bootsonground, Jun 8, 2019.

  1. Bootsonground
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    MANILA—President Rodrigo Duterte on Saturday said he "squarely blames" the Catholic Church for the rapid population growth in the Philippines.

    The Church has been actively campaigning against the use of contraception, Duterte told his long-time friend, Pastor Apollo Quiboloy, in a televised interview.


    "We are the fastest ang population and I squarely blame the Catholic Church. Sila lang nagpipigil ng family planning," the president said.

    https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/06/08...SIItm3ToHUIIJzhPENiTJ9AAECqV4A9JDpF1IANpsuTXQ
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  2. Druk1
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    The church is a business,a people business,it relies on people to generate funds,more people=more money in the coffers,he is right.
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  3. Druk1
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    I think this is the cult leader in Davao who has that huge building off to the right of Davao airport when you walk out the front doors,the guys super rich,helicopters and everything,all from conning cash from the gullible.
  4. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Many of us here have been saying this for years.
    How the church got away with conning Filipinos not to use contraception for so many years is outrageous and sad in equal measures in the modern world as we see it, but not so modern as many saw it in the Philippines.

    Duterte has been good for the Philippines on many issues, but perhaps not on all issues.
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  5. oss
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    The church has been consistent for decades and centuries, it is up to the people to reject them, a secular Ireland for example is a good thing.

    It will take a long time in the Philippines but I hope it happens one day, they are far from being a fully secular democracy.

    While I find Duterte to be a despicable person, this is one point on which I can offer some support, while I will not denigrate anyone's faith, hard to do anyway as someone brought up in the catholic faith, I don't think Catholicism has done the country any favours at all.
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  6. Druk1
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    Duterte is on record as saying he doesn't believe the catholic church will exist in the Philippines 25 years from now,apparently he was sexually abused by a priest as a child.
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  7. oss
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    Maybe, maybe, not.

    I know a lot of Filipinos that look like Sunday Catholics, that will eventually result in a retreat from the church, when is another matter.
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  8. Bootsonground
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    I personally hope that the Catholic church remains strong here.
    That other alternative and fast growing cult must never be presented as an option for Filipino`s IMO.
    That would be disastrous.
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  9. Dave_E
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    Yes, it (any religion) has to be run as a business, how else could it be organised in the modern age.

    The fact is that many people, the little people who don't matter to the globalist elite, want religion.

    Religion provides moral guidance so that people lead a good life, and it provides support for those within the community who are in need.

    Local communities collect funds to build churches, mosques, and temples in order to provide a focus point for their community.

    - I remember being fascinated by a mosque being built by the local community just behind a hotel I was staying at in Surabaya, Indonesia.

    - Similarly Buddhist temples I have seen being funded by local collection in Thailand.

    - A big new Coptic church being built next to the railroad crossing in Luxor, Egypt, where I sometimes stand in the baking hot midday sun to watch the late morning train from Cairo as it arrives into the local station, funded by locals.​

    So many people seem eager to scoff and scorn others who follow traditional community beliefs.
  10. aposhark
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    Meanwhile, back at the ranch......Duterte has really nailed it blaming the Catholic church for steep population rise.
    The Philippines has needed someone like him, IMO, someone who is not afraid to tell the clergy what ills they have caused.

    I just hope the Filipino people appreciate that he is trying to elevate peoples' lives.
    Someone who can see how the country can progress and surely over-population is a problem they could do without.

    My wife is not political so I cannot get any feedback about life in the Philippines, and besides, she has been away since 2009.
  11. aposhark
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    Makes you wonder why religion is waning, doesn't it!
  12. Druk1
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    I think in the west its fading but 3'rd world countries its still popular,i was in a church in Ottawa last October,the attendants were mostly filipino and African.
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  13. aposhark
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  14. Dave_E
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    Interesting.

    Whilst you decry Philippine Catholics for a supposed steep population rise that should be stopped, the article that you link to in your last post above highlights the fact that Christians worldwide are dying off rapidly, whilst Muslims are breeding like rabbits.

    Do you think this is good?

    (Disclosure: I have many Muslim friends and acquaintances, most of whom are fairly moderate)
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  15. aposhark
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    Duterte made a statement about what has happened to the population in his country.
    The links I posted were in reply to Druk1's post.
    Yes, it is interesting that Christianity is on the wane in developed countries and that Muslims are growing in numbers worldwide.
    It reminds me of a conversation I had with my wife in the first year.
    I asked her why there were so many children in the Philippines and she told me it was because there were no TV's in the province ;)
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  16. oss
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    Which alternative cult?
  17. aposhark
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    Such Islamophobic stereotyping once more :devil:
    When will this stop here?
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  18. Bootsonground
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    You have to give this guy some props.. The Aquino`s would never think of doing such a thing.


    Duterte conducts surprise Naia inspection.

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    “President Duterte talked to airline and NAIA officials regarding the cancellations and delays to know whether there are flight diversions and if affected passengers are given incentives to ease their inconvenience,” a Malacañang statement read.

    READ: Naia flight operations normalizing after lightning alert

    The statement said “a Philippine Airlines manager and a NAIA-Terminal 2 airport duty manager briefed the President on the flight woes and explained actions being undertaken to normalize the situation.”

    The Palace said Duterte “discussed how flight aberrations could be minimized and what actions could be employed by the government, particularly the Department of Transportation, to solve the problem in the long term.”

    The President then talked to the affected passengers, “apologizing to them for the inconvenience caused by the disruptions.”



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  19. oss
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    I genuinely didn't for one minute think that you meant Islam.

    In addition to the 7 day reply ban on replying to this thread (which may or may not work as I've never used the facility before) I am deleting the post.

    And btw thanks for your kind regards.
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  20. HaloHalo
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    Doesn’t matter if it doesn’t work just give it your best shot :like: it really gets tiresome some of the drivel on here
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