British child in Philippines, with invalid passport

oss · Jan 15, 2013

See this US example http://www.philippineconsulatela.org/WEB MATERIALS/dual primer.pdf

Also I agree with Methergate the Phil embassy in the UK are confusing the child with the mother, a child does not lose Philippine citizenship when they acquire their second nationality, whereas a mother might have to renounce Philippine nationality on acquisition of UK citizenship but in that case the Philippine passport would be explicitly invalidated by having the corner cut off and that would be done by the Philippine embassy in London, this still would not affect the child's claim to Philippine citizenship.

So if they both travelled on Philippine passports and both passports are valid in terms of date then how would the Philippine authorities know about the child's dual nationality.

Markham · Jan 15, 2013

Philip43 said: ↑

i think you misunderstand the circumstances Methersgate.
The child was born in the UK. Her mother obtained a (British) birth certificate, for her daughter, and a birth 'report' in order to obtain a Philippine passport, for her daughter, from the embassy in London. Both certificate and report were required. The child was then transported to the Philippines on her Philippine passport. The child is now 6 years old, and has recently received a certificate of British citizenship, which apparently makes her philippine passport invalid, even though it does not expire until 2016. An application for a British passport cannot be submitted at this time, as the child is still in the Philippines, and is unable therefore to complete the biometric procedure. (Eyes and fingerprints). The child is therefore in limbo, unless we can find a way to re-instigate her Philippine passport. that will involve her mother travelling to the philippine embassy in London, and re-acquireng her own Philippine citizenship.
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She most certainly can apply for a British Passport here, even a first Passport. As for the biometrics, that's all taken from the photos you provide which must conform to the guidelines. There is no fingerprinting or iris scans: they would have been required for the UK ID card which was scrapped.

Januarius · Jan 16, 2013

Philip43 said: ↑

Probably as confused as I am!! Lol!! The child's mother has to re acquire her own citizenship, in order for the child to automatically retain citizenship. That would then enable the child to travel here on her Philippine passport. But that's still not what the embassy told us.
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Ive read this thread 2 times now and I have a brain ache!!
So... Your "bird" became a British citizen or not?
Normally,once they get British citizenship they then go to the Brit embassy or any Filipino notary public and reacquire their Filipino citizenship,thus becoming Dual citizens.. Then her AND her British kids can have 2 passports..
It seems too simple though...Perhaps I have misunderstood something due to this brain ache of mine!!
Sorry!

Micawber · Jan 19, 2013

Curiouser and curiouser

Send three and four pence we're going to a dance. :wave:

jessicaransom · Feb 12, 2013

oss said: ↑

A child born to a Philippine national will retain Philippine nationality even if they are also entitled to claim a foreign nationality as well, it is not the same as the case where a woman renounces citizenship on marriage to a foreigner, the child cannot renounce citizenship.
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Hi! I was wondering if you found this documented anywhere? I agree with this, but would love to find actual Philippine government documentation for this.

oss · Feb 12, 2013

jessicaransom said: ↑

Hi! I was wondering if you found this documented anywhere? I agree with this, but would love to find actual Philippine government documentation for this.
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http://www.philippineconsulatela.org/WEB MATERIALS/dual primer.pdf

I posted this earlier the specific quote is :-

Is it possible for Filipinos to hold dual citizenship or more than one citizenship at the same
time?
Holding more than one citizenship is possible for Filipinos especially when conflict of nationality
laws is concerned. For example, a child born in the United States of America of Filipino parents is
an American citizen under US law and a Filipino citizen under Philippine law. This is because
American citizenship is derived from the territory in which the person was born while Philippine
citizenship is derived from the parents’ citizenship.
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There are other online references as well I will try to dig them up later.

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