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When will people visit the Philippines again like before?

Discussion in 'Travel Tips and Advice' started by aposhark, Apr 8, 2023.

  1. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Of course this question is linked to money.
    When will flights become cheap enough for people to visit in numbers like it was before Covid-19, which was over 3 years ago?
    As we all know, finances have been hit by higher energy bills too.
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  2. Jim
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    Jim Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I'v noticed some tourist milling about town, Mainly back-packers but nothing like pre covid.
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  3. Mattecube
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  4. John Surrey
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    And food... and for most they now have to frequent the office again and pay for travel and food out etc etc.

    Looks bloody dire for people in the UK, when are the ordinary people there going to rise up and kick the privileged classes out?
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  5. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I don't see prices ever returing to the £400 to £500 per person range for return trips.

    I did find a horrible combination of RyanAir, Whizz Air and Cebu Pacific with one leg by Whizz air Malta for £591 but is 33 hours each way.

    I've settled on the idea that the best flights I can get will be in the range of £1100 to £1500 per person in future.
  6. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Those sort of flight costs will continue to deter families visiting from Europe, Jim, which is a shame.
    If flights are not full, they will have to re-think their pricing strategy, and for this reason I expect costs to decrease over time.
  7. oss
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    If the flights are not full and not profitable for that reason most airlines will just close the route, my last two round trips were both expensive and both were very busy flights.

    Also remember that the likes of Emirates use the hub and spoke model, the passengers on a DXB -> MNL leg are coming into DXB on many different flights those Dubai inbound passengers are travelling to many different destinations hence the (UK) -> DXB routes tend to be pretty full.

    Same is true for KLM, it's the KLM Cityhoppers out of the UK that feed into the KLM longhaul fleet but it's not just us it's flyers from all over Europe that use Schipol as the hub, and you also have to remember that the final Philippine inward leg is like an afterthought now most of the flight load is for passengers to Thailand or Kuala Lumpur or Singapore and the final leg carries a few extra new passengers from these destinations on to the Philippines.

    KLM have also cut the frequency of flights at times rather than cutting prices because I think they are currently charging what they need to charge to operate these routes at all, I don't see any market pressure on them to drop prices.

    And the Kuwait airlines thing I got dumped on back in January was also really busy.

    Finally don't forget that the airlines make the vast majority of their profits on the business and premium class passengers, not on cattle class, if anything they are struggling to fill those business seats and that's probably why the economy seats are not cheaper.
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  9. Druk1
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    Interesting they note the PI lags behind other SEA countries,I never found the service or prices as good in pinas,nor the food,before the INSTA generation I would have put most visitors to the PI as returning pinoys with foreign passports and their spouses.
    One of the attractions on that link is Mt Apo,I have done it but I bet 99% of tourists haven’t.
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  10. Mattecube
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    If I had a choice now there are plenty more Asian countries I would want to see before returning to the Philippines.
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  11. Druk1
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    I will revisit the Philippines maybe once more,then that’s it.Her indoors family are in the states and Canada,likewise the people we care about got out of the PI.
    It doesn’t really have culture or food that appeal or attract,not compared to most other Asian countries,lots of other countries on the globe to see.
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  12. Guybrush Threepwood
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    I won't be going back there either. Once more tops. It's expensive and I want to see more places.

    Plane ticket prices will keep going up. Oil cartels and plane cartels make sure of it. It's a shame PAL stopped LHR- MLA, I always thought that would be a highly used route.
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  13. oss
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    You mean LHR->MNL, according to an ex member they started out with good Boeing 777s then switched to older poorly configured aircraft with primitive facilities, like they moved back to cabin movie screens i.e. no in seat entertainment poor seats poor food and it still wasn't particularly cheap.

    I checked the prices often back in the day and it was rarely competitive, it's only advantage was single leg relatively short flights, from where I live it would have been train+flight or a two leg flight but the single LHR->MNL leg still wasn't cheap.
  14. John Surrey
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    I think most other Asian countries like to generate forex from tourism whereas RP relies on the OFW's for that.
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  15. Druk1
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    Most people, westerners that is, only keep going back because their wives want to holiday there for family, apart from that or someone wanting a specialist Diving holiday it doesn't really offer much compared to countries like Thailand with real culture, good food, and very tourist friendly.
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  16. Mattecube
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    Yes that was the debate my wife and I had last trip, go back to see her eldest daughter or go elsewhere we plumbed for elsewhere and we all had a new travel experience.
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  17. Heathen
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    My wife has just returned from visiting her family on Mindanao, she commented on how prices in general had increased since she was last their pre covid, I declined to go with her mostly because of the travel time to get to the Philippines and I'm begining to feel my age now, 2 days travelling no longer appeals to me, then what would I actually do whilst I was their ?, after all my wife was spending her time with family and friends, I very much doubt that I will visit the Philippines again though never say never.
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  18. Guybrush Threepwood
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    I love to go there, but it is a long day when everyone is speaking in their language and you feel a bit left out. My wife's parents have passed on, and she has bros and sisters there. When you're looking at the best part of £3k to get there, then the expenses, and the big family meals, and so on - and there's a lot more of the planet I'd like to see before WW3 breaks out, it's getting hard to get enthusiastic. I love it when I am there, but I seldom like the idea of going there.
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  19. Guybrush Threepwood
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    I used it when they were B777s and amazing planes. I can't imagine how crap a journey would be if everyone is watching the same screen. It was cheaper for me than Singapore air at the time.
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    the more i hear about the place--the less i would ever consider going there.
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