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Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by bigmac, Dec 20, 2014.

  1. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    in another thread--a member mentioned something that got me thinking.

    as the new rules started just under 2 and a half years ago---a lot of couples will soon be applying for the first FLR.

    what if the sponsor no longer meets the financial requirements ? unemployment--illness --can have a disastrous effect on the family income---as i well know.

    if havent looked into the requirements for FLR--i'll face that when i have to----so can anyone comment on this ?
    a lot of questions arise--but i just want to see the reply so far.
  2. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    That's something I have thought about myself as nobody can guarantee their job and their health during the right to remain stages of the visa process. I brought the good lady here to the UK on a Fiancée visa so we had to wait until we were married and had gained the first FLR before she was entitled to work. In our second FLR we will be able to include the earnings of my wife which relieves the problem a little of one of us being out of work. The wife quickly got a job here in the UK and now earns well above the financial requirement for the FLR. I can only assume that a FLR application will be turned down if the financial requirements are not met, I only read today in the news that around 200,000 people are still here in the UK after being turned down for right to remain visas, I assume failed FLR visas fall into that category. The government is being criticised for not removing these people fast enough, I guess a lot just disappear into the world of being an illegal immigrant in the UK.

    So, yes bigmac, a good point you have raised, lets hope we don't find out what happens, doesn't bear thinking about after all the trouble we've been to getting the loved ones here, but at the end of the day rules are rules.
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    scenario-----quite within the bounds of possibilty:

    man sponsors spouse / fiancee

    2 and a half years down the track--theyve now got 2 kids. man has had serious illness--cant work. wife is full time mother.--and carer for husband. they dont meet the income level--and have no more savings .

    how is UKVI going to explain it to the kids that mummy is on the next plane out ?
  4. Timmers
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    I don't think the UKVI will be doing any explaining, that will be down to you. I don't think they can separate a child born in the UK from their mother.

    Its another reason why a lot of thought should be given to starting a relationship with a foreign National, you are fully responsible for them along with any children when you bring them to the UK. Now that the time to gain the ILR has been extended to five years it makes the possibility of your scenario more and more realistic.
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    or--as in my case--my only income is state pension--and--as ive mentioned before--i sold my house 13 months ago to free up capital to meet the savings requirement.

    so--if--when she gets here--i then buy a place again--there goes the savings----so she will need to work to help meet the income level.

    if she can.
  6. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I think that will be the case, just sit at home bigmac while the missus goes to work, that's what I'd love to do if I could, you've done your bit after all :)

    Remember that your pension can also be used for any possible shortfall in the financial requirement.
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    Remember that your pension can also be used for any possible shortfall in the financial requirement.

    at the moment--but--another member suggested that could be liable to change in the near future. and even savings might be excluded. thats why i'm starting to get a bit twitchy with the delay in our case.
  8. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Ah, I understand where you're coming from bigmac, because the Government has failed reducing EU immigration it can only turn and tighten up non EU immigration into the UK as it still has some control over it.
  9. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    yep--even though its a major cash cow for UKVI.
  10. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Hopefully the missus will have the annulment sorted out soon and you can get her here before any further changes are made to the requirements of the visa.
  11. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    dragging on now.
  12. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Good things come to them that wait :), I wouldn't like to be in your shoes, makes the visa process just seem like a moment in time compared with your wait.

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