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The Philippines is driving me nuts....

Discussion in 'Life in the Philippines' started by aposhark, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I've been here many, many times but the place now drives me nuts.
    Noisey, hard to travel, everybody trying to rip me off, too much religion, dirty.....
    Jeez I could go on.
    Not a good last 5 weeks for so many reasons.
    Think I'd rather be lying next to a swimming pool in Spain right now :erm:
  2. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    That's a shame Mike, I enjoyed my 5 weeks but then again we didn't get out much.

    It's always been dirty so I kind of expect that, the religion does not bother me, did have one incident though in Malate where aggressive begging got out of hand and one kid had his hand in my pocket (he got nothing) and that was distressing as I know the area well and never had problems there before.

    I've always been realistic about the place, sometimes earlier experience can be a little rose tinted.
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  3. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Yes Jim, I think you hit the nail on the head mentioning the fact that you hardly went out.
    Perhaps if my wife and I owned somewhere to relax in like yourself, we would be able to put our feet up and not get stressed out.
    Travelling too much with kids here just makes me feel that I need another holiday to get over this one.
    I have realised that being here would not be suitable for most families from the "West".
    I too am realistic - I think we won't be coming here every couple of years anymore even though Rochelyn's family is here. It's such a nightmare without a comfortable place to stay for a while but I do think my wife and I travelling with a 2½ year old and a 1 year old here has tipped me over the edge particularly......
  4. Dave_E
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    Dave_E Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I know the feeling well.

    One or two bad things are OK, but in the Philippines they just keep on coming..

    My worst example, I arrived in Manila last August.

    Half a mile from the airport our (hotel) taxi was flagged over by a bunch of corrupt cops, they apparently found some minor problem (I assume) with his paperwork.

    I could see the $$$ rolling in their eyes as the looked at me, a foreign passenger.

    The bastards had an argument with our driver, then unscrewed the number plates and walked off with them, it took 1,000 Peso and 20 minutes to get them back, obviously no receipt, and obviously the driver had no money.

    One of my unforgettable memories of the Philippines.

    [​IMG]
  5. Dave_E
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    Same area, a bunch of begging kids were getting too close to me, so I told them to **** off.

    One of the little bastards took his shoe off and threw it at the back of my head.

    I turned around, picked it up, gave him the evil eye, and dropped the shoe down a storm drain. :like:
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  6. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Hi Dave_E,
    If the things you mentioned that happened to you were to happen to me right now here, I would really lose my rag......
    Think I need a massage (the ones for happily married men).
  7. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    It's such a pity that this trip has not worked out as well for you as previous trips
    I think that travelling around with kids is always going to be tough. Also not having a quiet haven for relaxation does make a difference.
    I remember the first few times I visited the Philippines I really got 'edgy' not having privacy and my own space. At that time we also stayed with family. Nowadays that's not the case at all. We both prefer our own space.

    I know that like me, Mike, you have spent many years working and living in many countries and cultures.
    I always maintain you need a certain mindset to manage being comfortable in different cultures and living conditions.
    But when you have you mind on little ones some of the 'cracks' in that comfort tend to grow.

    It makes a big difference when you have your own place.

    Hope all will go well.
    I'm sure the family would love a short relaxing holiday in UK or southern Europe sometime. I know my wife enjoyed our holiday in Barcelona. City sights and great beach too.
  8. subseastu
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    This is the thing I think about a lot as well Mike. You have to remember that the P.I is basically still a third world country with massive poverty and poor infrastructure outside the larger towns / cities.

    My wife wants to build a proper brick house in the province (where ther is no road to and no running water yet!) on our rice farm. I'm trying to hold off on the idea as I think for how often we'll be there it'l be a waste of money especailly with the poor exchange rate.

    I've always said that the best place for me was Olongapo city about10 years ago. Nice, clean (ish), not over developed, girly bars on the whole had been moved out of town, reasonable amenities. Relaxing in our own rented house / apartment. But of course this has all changed now. I still don't know where we'll end up when we move out there hopefully this year, maybe Cavite way as I'm trying to convince the wife we should save money while out there to allow us a new house in the UK on our return. I ceertainly don't want to be breaking the bank!

    Well i hope your time out there picks up for you Mike
  9. oss
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    When you have kids Mike it changes things, going out does get more stressful, but in my situation we have the inbuilt extended family there to provide the childcare and distraction for the kids plus we have our own base of operations as you say which helps.

    I was going to suggest that the big difference for you this time is facing the reality of having kids in tow, the extra effort involved in managing the kids on that kind of long stay away would be very stressful if you don't have a nanny to look after them and give you a break sometimes, I have a lot of sympathy it's hard enough for us and we do have Ana's sister looking after the kids when they are out with us and often some of the cousins out with us as well.

    When you are on your own together it is much easier to get around and to filter the bad bits out of your consciousness.

    My biggest stress is the weekly shop at SM where I get more and more panicky at all the stuff going in the trolley :D there was one day near new year where I was low on funds and was mentally keeping tags on what was in the trolley, I had 8700 on me and I guesstimated 8400 the bill came to 8650 which did not leave me enough for the taxi home, but I had cash at home thank god, life in the Phils can be far from paradise but with some planning it can still get close.
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  10. Jim
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    I just got back from my winter break, Feurtiventure. nice clean hotel, next to the beach, clean fresh air, sensible drivers, good roads some have bicycle tracks too, good food, inexpensive beer 150 Euros pint of san mig . Could go on forever.

    Missed The Phillippines. work that one out :erm:
  11. oss
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    Ana and me got very upset, in Malate I have always tried to help and be kind there are plenty of genuine cases of hardship there on the streets, we gave one lad a little as we were about to hail a taxi (we had just come out of Bedrock after having a nice evening there and playing pool a few doors down) next thing they multiplied in a way that I had only last seen in Cebu before around seven years back, anyway they swarmed around I had a camera bag round my neck with my old Canon 40D and a not particularly good lens on it and Ana saw one of them try the zip on the front of the bag (which was behind me at this point) this upset her, I meanwhile had hailed the cab sized him up and was happy that he was an ok cab but Ana had not figured out all that at that point.

    Anyway to cut to the chase Ana is getting angry at these boys, I am very conscious of what is happening around me and then I feel a hand trying to get into my back pocket at which point I got loud and shouted 'ENOUGH' very loudly at them, this also attracted a lot of attention which also upset me as I have never caused a scene in that country ever. Anyway I had scared them a bit and we jumped into the taxi whereupon one of them gave Ana the finger, meanwhile I was calmly but angrily telling the boy who was holding the door open 'WE TRY TO HELP BUT WE ARE NOT RICH WE UNDERSTAND HOW BAD IT IS HERE BUT DO NOT DESERVE TO BE TREATED THIS WAY'.

    Ana was a nervous wreck all the way home, she had not seen the hand in my pocket which prompted my aggression (loud voice) she thought I didn't know what was going on but I was very aware of what was going on around me all the time in spite of having had a fair few beers.

    Most disappointing and we didn't go back out to Malate which is one of our favorite spots as we used to live close by.
  12. Anon220806
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    :like:

    I spent a holiday in Furteventura a few years ago (with the ex). I enjoyed it. This year I am taking the wife and baby to Portugal (Algarve) - Schengen Visa permitting.

    150 Euros a pint?
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  13. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Typo definitely :D
  14. Jim
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    Jim Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    oops 1.5 Euros. There's some lovely beach's on the Algarve, went there in the 80's. Love to go back sometime.

    Good luck with the Shengen visa :like:
  15. Dave_E
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    Another typo..

    Should be Schengen. :D

    Why does the EU never have a Wigan agreement.

    Or a Blackpool accord?
  16. Anon220806
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    More like shenanigans.
  17. Aromulus
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    Just back from a week in Tenerife.:)

    The weather was great, the food cheap, plentiful and extremely tasty and no cockerels in sight.... :like:

    Only lots of lily white brits trying to get a bit of a tan....:oops:

    The San Mig was cheap enough, some bars on the promenade were giving it away at 1 Euro a pint to attract business. ;)
  18. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Hi Dom the missus informed me yesterday you guys where on a Portuguess Island in the south lol
  19. Aromulus
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    Am afraid that geography ain't our Mrs's forte..............:erm:

    Dunno how many times I explained to Jet, that Portugal was nowhere near tenerife..........
  20. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Lol pass the Madiera my dear

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