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The importance of the RH Bill

Discussion in 'Life in the Philippines' started by bobcouttie, Nov 23, 2012.

  1. bobcouttie
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    bobcouttie Member Trusted Member

    The Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines makes a habit of ignoring the best scientific evidence in favour of the Reproductive Health Bill so here's a very relevant piece from the lancet:

    "the best way to reduce the number of abortions is to give women choice over when and how to plan their families and avoid unwanted pregnancies in the first place." http://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...lsca1=ETOC-LANCET&elsca2=email&elsca3=E24A35F
  2. Kuya
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    Kuya The Geeky One Staff Member

    Sad how some people would rather stick their neck in the sand when it comes to issues like this.

    I've always argued that when it comes to advice about sex, family planning and all matters surrounding those. People who have taken vows of celibacy shouldn't be giving any advice out to anyone. It's like going to a devout Muslim and getting reviews on the best bacon sarnie!!!
  3. bobcouttie
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    bobcouttie Member Trusted Member

    I am familiar with Catholic clergy in a number of countries and I have to say that members of the CBCP are not only obdurate but, frankly, not very bright.
  4. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Senator Juan Ponce Enrile has said that he is opposed to the RH Bill because he wants to see lots of Filipinos going abroad to work.

    At least one female OCW has replied that if she didn't use contraception, and got pregnant each time she came home on leave, she would not have a job for long ...

    A good many people have been scandalised by the Senator's insensitivity.
  5. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    ....

    Lol :d
  6. bobcouttie
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    bobcouttie Member Trusted Member

    Currently the bill is going through the amendments phase and the Pro-RH senators seem to have the upper hand. However, the CBCP is doing everything it can to get its catamites in the legislature to slow things down so that a vote will not be taken before it breaks up for the elections.
  7. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    I have found that there's mixed feelings and a good deal of support within the 'rank and file' clergy. Unfortunately it's the higher levels and politically connected that seem to have reasons not to be open.
  8. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Progress eh.

    I kind of stopped keeping up with the progress of the bill as it has been so painfully slow. Nice to see it actually has some momentum just now.
  9. bobcouttie
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    bobcouttie Member Trusted Member

    Indeed, the rank and file clergy understand the issue, they see it everyday. At the higher levels there is a desire for promotion which is best achieved by being as extreme as possible. It certainly worked for now-Cardinal Tagle and there's probably some jockeying going on among the bishops.
  10. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I would like to commend to everyone a really excellent column in the Philippine Inquirer for the 4th December, by Michael Tan - a columnist whom I have, to my shame, just discovered, and who comes up with a lot of good sense.

    the column is here:http://opinion.inquirer.net/42105/treat-or-trick

    but because the Inquirer's web links sometimes get overloaded and only reproduce half the article, I've taken the liberty of copying and pasting it here in full:

    Last Sunday I was driving on Edsa when, approaching Quezon Boulevard, I saw a horde—and I am not exaggerating—of young boys, running down two lanes of Edsa, screaming like they were fleeing some disaster. I counted at least 18 of them before losing track.

    They were, of course, just having fun, deriving cheap thrills from running against the traffic. These are the batang hamog, children of the morning dew, urban poor kids out for Sunday sun, fun and exercise.

    “There’s your demographic sweet,” I said to no one in particular, the term having been used lately by central bank and finance officials, as well as groups opposed to the Reproductive Health bill, to argue that our large population has been beneficial because we now have many young people who will drive the economy forward as consumers.

    The term has been used interchangeably with “demographic dividend,” again to argue that we are reaping, or about to reap, the benefits of a large population so we don’t need to legislate support for family planning.

    But I’m afraid the talk of demographic dividends and sweets in the Philippines are more tricks than treats. The terms have been distorted and mangled, misleading people. Let’s get the definitions, and the facts, straight.

    Youth bulge

    It was a US group, Rand Corp., that popularized the term “demographic dividend” in a report published in 2003. The study was backed by various US philanthropies supporting family planning, including the Hewlett Foundation, Packard Foundation and others, the very ones anti-RH groups have attacked as “imperialist.”

    The Rand report says that it is not population growth per se that affects economic development but the age structure, meaning the breakdown of the population by age groups. This structure changes across time, depending on public health interventions, including family planning. As a country’s public system improves, you have higher rates of child survival, which will lead to a “youth demographic bulge.” Without strong family planning programs, this bulge can extend over time, as is the case with the Philippines.

    A first demographic dividend can come with the youth bulge, if a country generates enough jobs for this growing work force. A second demographic dividend comes later, with strong family planning programs, where smaller families mean more savings and more opportunities in terms of education and health care. For governments, too, there will be more money to go to public services including, yes, safe playgrounds. This healthier and better educated young population will still be sizeable, but will contribute to slowing down population growth even further, by postponing marriage and child-rearing.

    At the same time, these young people enter the work force with more available capital, knowledge and skills, contributing to economic development through entrepreneurial, technological and engineering innovation. That is what happened to the East Asian economies, the so-called Asian tigers, and is also happening now to neighboring countries like Singapore and Thailand, and emerging economies in other parts of the world, notably South Africa, Brazil and India.

    The “demographic sweet” concept seems to be a more recent creation, concentrating more on young upwardly mobile professionals (yuppies), with emphasis on their spending as a plus factor. This still relates to Rand Corp.’s observations about age structure, with the demographic sweet referring to young people of working age being able to spend more when there is a lighter dependency burden.

    A demographic sweet is there when you have an age-dependency ratio below 50, meaning the total number of very young (below 16) and the elderly (above 64) is less than 50 percent of the population. An example is Thailand, where 29 percent of the population is aged below 16 and 13 percent are aged above 64, to give an age-dependency ratio of 41.

    Let’s get to the facts now for the Philippines:

    First, we are still in a youth bulge, one of the last countries in the region still in this difficult and precarious stage of a large population of young dependents, many neglected and doomed to unemployment and underemployment. We are missing out on the first demographic dividend, unable to create enough local jobs and exporting Filipinos instead, with social costs in terms of the young and the elderly left behind.

    Second, talk about a demographic sweet is premature. Let’s look at the age dependency burden of our neighbors as of 2011. I mentioned Thailand’s figure of 41. Singapore’s age-dependency ratio is 36, China’s 38, Vietnam’s 41, Indonesia’s 48. These countries can talk of a demographic sweet.

    The Philippines? The elderly comprise 6 percent of the population and the very young account for 57 percent of the total, giving an age-dependency burden of 63, the highest in the Southeast and East Asia.

    Club sandwich gen

    Let’s move away from the numbers to better explain the dependency. Many Filipinos know what it’s like to be part of the sandwich generation, where you have to support your children, and your parents. In recent years I’ve met more people in even direr straits, who, besides supporting their parents and children, sometimes have to shoulder the expenses as well of grandchildren, because their children are jobless or are not earning enough. The bittersweet reality is that we have here a “club sandwich generation,” where even the middle class has great difficulties making ends meet.

    Yet a study by a group called CLSA, released in October and based on interviews with 400 Filipino yuppies, claims we have this demographic sweet because yuppies, comprising 3 percent of the total population, account for 20 percent of discretionary consumption, meaning luxury items, recreation, vacations and nonessential goods and services.

    I do not see that as a source for rejoicing. Discretionary spending is not development. That in fact has been one of our biggest problems throughout our history, particularly in the postwar period. While our neighbors scrimped and saved, and had smaller families, our upper classes excelled in conspicuous consumption—weekends in Hong Kong, expensive imports like cars and other luxury items—while neglecting the development of local manufacturing, and the creation of jobs.

    Today the pattern of consumption-driven “development” in the Philippines has worsened, with a flood of imports from China, Korea and other countries that are truly reaping their demographic dividends by producing stuff to sell to the Philippines, where our young are enticed to spend beyond their means.

    I shudder to think, too, of what happens to the young and elderly dependents. The batang hamog I saw on Edsa reminded me of slightly older ones, fathers at age 15 or 16, in government hospitals’ obstetrics wards, desperate in their last-minute search for money for their girlfriends’ delivery, clutching a cell phone, some even two cell phones, but not having enough credit load in their phones to call or text. That’s discretionary spending, too, a demographic sweet causing pain.

    Let’s not be tricked by all this talk of treats.

    The Rand Corp. report is available on the Internet, Look up The Demographic Dividend: A New Perspective on the Economic Consequences of Population Change. You can also find the various references to “demographic sweet” online.
  11. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    And in a single bound, the Congress passed not only the RH Bill (second and third reading in the Senate, third reading in the House, but also the Freedome of Information Bill (no opponents on third reading in the Senate)

    A pretty good day for the Philippines.

    Corina went to the second day of the Misa de Gallo (=advent service in Church). The priest took as his text "go forth and multiply" and preached against the RH Bill, as instructed by his Bishop. Two children were begging for food outside the church...
  12. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Yes. Great news indeed!

    I gather Aquino put his weight behind it to accelerate it to the 3rd and final stage.
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2012
  13. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I thought I'd just post this rather nice picture of Senators Caetano (left) and Santiago (centre) in their moment of well deserved victory:

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    During the final passage of the bill, Senator Tito Sotto,


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    one of its leading opponents, increased the gaiety of nations by asserting that "true Filipinas" would not want their sexual experiences to be "satisfying" :oops:


    (Senator Santiago responded by threatening to introduce a law that required Filipino husbands to satisfy their wives...)
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2012
  14. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    :D

    Who is the Senator Caetano?

    Is that Cayetano?
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2012
  15. bobcouttie
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    bobcouttie Member Trusted Member

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  17. bobcouttie
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    bobcouttie Member Trusted Member

    Pia is the daughter of the late Rene Cayentano. Pia has a strong record for womens' rights.
  18. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    Here's the BBC' take on the 'contraception law'

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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

  20. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Historic indeed. Thats one big box ticked for fundamental requirements for the future in the Philippines.

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