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Discussion in 'News from The Philippines' started by Anon220806, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. oss
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    LA red and purple lines are underground for a total of about 24 miles the rest is metro lines like Manila.

    Tokyo underground system is obviously extensive however it is also a city on a fault line and that fault is more stressed now after the 2011 quake, at least in Japan they have been building to standards that will see a lot of buildings survive, however I doubt the tunnels will be so fortunate.

    Take London the main reason it has such an extensive underground is because of the fact it lies on soft clay, in Glasgow we have the clockwork orange one small loop driven through extremely hard rock, there are many reasons why some cities might not want an underground.

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    Hmmmm would appear that Manila has a clay based substructure but it also has very rapid subsidence up to 1 meter in four years in Malabon other places 10 cm a year, I'm really not sure that they have well researched anything over there before just going and just building stuff.
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  2. Anon220806
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    Of course infrastructure doesn't magically appear. Infrasructure would of course cost. Who said anything different? Certainly not I. You have made that bit up.

    Why would certain people want to become politicians? It isn't compulsory. Strange statement. A lot of work can be achieved outside of Congress. And "these lawyers" as you put it, already have made a difference. There are Senators involved aswell.
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  3. Anon220806
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    I would guess that a ring of fire proof tube system would indeed prove prohibitively expensive. But it (similar) has just been done in Turkey.
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  4. Anon220806
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    I don't believe that. Do you mean that you don't want to walk? Walking is a form of exercise. It seems that many people do want to walk but according to you they don't. The idea is to make it pleasant and safe to walk. And take some of the reliance away from cars. I think we are now going to go around in pointless circles again.

    Houston
    http://houstonwalks.blogspot.com/

    Jakarta
    http://anisyahsurya.blogspot.com/2012/07/ocean-eco-park-ancol.html

    Bangkok



    Manila

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  5. Anon220806
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    I believe there are volcanic rocks in their too, from previous Taal eruptions. Yes, they reached that far.
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  6. Anon220806
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    Well, its all in the press releases. Whether we agree with it or not it is all going ahead. We can negate it as much as we like in a forum but it wont change the outcome. If a person is of a certain mindset they can pull anything apart on paper. And do.

    Some people give a lifetime to a good cause but there is always going to be some numpty that will try and pull the work to shreds. I guess that's life.
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  7. Anon220806
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    Looking at that statement , you have indeed missed the point. Have a read again of the press releases.

    Who mentioned shrinking the roads? Please tell me. Where is the banging ones head against the wall smiley?
  8. Anon220806
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    I know at least you can be counted on for an honest reply. :like:
  9. oss
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    That is fairly true John, nobody really likes going out in the sun, I get looked at like I'm mad when I go out and walk, and the women don't want to be out in the sun because they will get dark skin.

    "Mad dogs and Englishmen" and all that, the people that are on foot are doing it because they haven't got a car, which brings us back to the numbers, a couple of million private cars and no room in the network to really expand on that. My thought is that development of other types of transport will happen simply because there is no choice but I don't see a lot of walking ever being popular over there.
  10. Anon220806
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    So why are they developing IloIlo for pedestrians? Senator Drilon is right behind that whole initiative.
    One would be mad to walk where there isnt a suitable place to walk. Agreed. But given suitable places to walk with shade, then people will walk. Alright, not everyone wants to. But some do. And they see it as their right to do so but have that choice taken away from them.

    The people pushing this through arent doing it for propaganda purposes as Markham says, they are doing it to get the air clean, to have the freedom to walk and cycle if they so wish and to encourage public transport to displace the private motorist that is clogging up the road. Thats it. Sounds reasonable to me.
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    Is this crazy?

    "DPWH builds pedestrian underpass

    THE Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) is starting to build a scenic pedestrian underpass under the multi-million peso diversion bridge connecting the side of the Iloilo Esplanade I to the other side across the Benigno Aquino Jr. highway popularly known as the diversion road.

    The diversion road is currently undergoing a road widening to accommodate eight lanes of roads and pedestrian overpasses.

    DPWH Regional Director Edilberto Tayao reported to Senator Franklin Drilon and Mayor Jed Patrick Mabilog the ongoing underpass construction as part of the Esplanade expansion.

    Esplanade I was already completed at the 1.2-kilometer Dean Efrain B. TreƱas Boulevard, and construction is ongoing at the Esplanade II project from the Medical City area up to the barangay ecopark in Barangay San Pedro, Molo.

    Tayao said the underpass project will be completed early next year to add more accessibility the Esplanade Park, currently the exercise haven and leisure area of this city. (Lydia C. Pendon)"


    http://www.sunstar.com.ph/iloilo/local-news/2013/07/01/dpwh-builds-pedestrian-underpass-290221
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    My young British friend Phil does the marathon over there he runs regularly, and yeah people should have the option but few will go out at noon.

    The street outside our subdivision is paved on one side and also has a metal canopy along most of its length, and that's not in an upmarket area so sometimes there has been some thought put into this stuff.

    I can really only speak about Manila although Cebu looked very similar when I was there some years ago, when I see people out and about it tends to be when the sun is going down or coming up or on dull overcast days, we are coming up to the Philippine summer and I will be back over then, I know how terribly hot it gets even indoors.

    I hope this action by the lawyers succeeds but as long as it is not seen as a command to go back and retrofit existing areas at the expense of peoples livelyhoods, cities like Makati are already very modern and in many ways very similar to the west they have all the same amenities (almost) but go down to Las Pinas to up to Tondo or North Caloocan and people are living much harder lives.
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    If the police, LTO and city traffic enforcers did their jobs by enforcing the laws and regulations that currently exist, there'd be much less pollution and congestion and very likely no need for such legal action. Davao serves as a very good model for what can be achieved in that respect.
  15. Anon220806
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    The penny has dropped, then.
  16. Markham
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    Yes, at least ten years ago! And that's the result of strong city government and not a bunch of lawyers seeking to make a name for themselves.
  17. Anon220806
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    So Sig Fortun is seeking to make a name for himself? Your lines are so laughable at times.

    As you misinterpreted my words yet again, i shall expand by saying that the penny has obviously only just dropped for you that there are laws in place already and the idea is to ensure they are implemented.

    Now tootle off and bug somebody else. Thankyou.
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  18. Anon220806
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    Law by the bullet is not strong. Now please go and bother someone else. Thankyou.
  19. Markham
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    That illustrates how very little you know about either Duterte or Davao. Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head here nor is there martial law in this city.

    This is a nuisance lawsuit and will likely be treated as such.

    Stop patronising me. This is not a school room and you are not a teacher so have some respect. If you don't like reading what others write, simply don't read their words. You have no right to tell them to stop.
  20. Anon220806
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    In your eyes it is.

    In my eyes you are a nuisance poster. Now please go away and wreck someone elses thread. Thankyou.

    Wheres the eject button? :D

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