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Need help: British Father & Filipino Mother

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  1. tiredpretendingtobeokay
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    Hello i'm new here and I need any advice and help as well.
    My situation is complicated po. I'd like to apply for British Citizenship po. I was born in the Philippines in 2004 and my Filipino mother is not married to my British father, but I take his last name because he registered it when I was 5 years old and acknowledge me to do so under the terms of the law RA 9255. But still he don't have any signature of my birth certificate. Around that time, my mother passed away. Currently, my father is in the UK. But he refused to help me when I tried to tell him about applying citizenship. He even stopped giving me financial aid for school since year 2018. I can still get in touch with him via phone, and I've already let him know that I want to seek for citizenship so that I can go to the UK, but he doesn't want to assist me. He didn't have any plan for me to apply citizenship. It's so complicated. I don't have any copy for his birth certificate, passport because his last visit here in Philippines was 2018 also, and he didn't want to cooperate. What should I do?
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  2. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Hello and welcome @tiredpretendingtobeokay.
    How old are you?
  3. bigmac
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    welcome to the forum

    Its a difficult situation. Has your father told you why he doesnt want you over here ?
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  4. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    Sorry to hear about your mum mate.
  5. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

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  6. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    The signing of the 9255 document allows you to use your fathers name it does not alter your birth status or acknowledge him as the father, you are going to have a long struggle I suspect getting his name on your BC,but that has to be your start point,without it I dont believe you will be able to progress the application of citizenship.
    As your mother is sadly no longer alive and after a long period of time (years) and you are fortunate that your father has a change of heart and is happy to sign the BC, you will have to register your birth and without yor mother present this may present a number of difficulties!
    For example who can verify he is the father? Given the passage of time, if you get through all this the application for BC will be vetted and again you may meet a number of difficulties in persuading the UKGOV.

    9255, “An Act Allowing Illegitimate Children to Use the Surname of the Father, Amending the Family Code of the Philippines,” an illegitimate child may use the surname of the father if acknowledged at the back of the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) or acknowledged in a separate public document (the Affidavit of

    I wiss you well
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  7. Br28016
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    @oss is probably one of best people to give advice on this as he is father and has gone through the process of getting recognition for one of his kids but they had the advantage that he wanted to get them citizenship.

    Depending on how much information you have on your father - town of birth, date of birth and full name then potentially a birth certificate can be ordered if born in UK.

    Main issue is the requirements to show he is the father and those will be difficult to say the least without his help. From memory they will want maternity and birth records and evidence that your father was in country at time of conception.

    In this scenario DNA evidence is probably the best bet as him signing the back of the birth certificate or the acknowledgement of paternity isn't probably enough. Normally expected to be signed I think within a year of birth and may be less. Five years I think would be to long. If done within a short period after birth may be enough as think rules were that they should except if within a stated period. That said I think they add extra hurdles for philippines.

    Think you really need his support and look at the DNA route to establish citizenship. If can't do that and have enough information to order a birth certificate then would have to try to get passport with that and your birth certificate details but think it will be challenging.

    Not mentioned but you also need to know what his marriage situation was when you were born as that is another potential complication. I'm assuming as well that your mother was single when you were born as if not that is another potential block.

    Really need to understand why he does not want to help as that may unblock the issue.

    One final point is that you are not applying for citizenship. You will either have citizenship in which case you need to prove it or you don't have citizenship in which case difficult to get.

    There are scenarios such as if your father was born outside UK then not able to pass on to a child born outside UK.
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    The op states her parents were not married (further complicates) and mother now deceased( further complicates) a minefield
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    once he agrees a start point
    Bring a PSA copy of the birth certificate to the Civil Registry office. Bring notarized supporting documents: Affidavit of Admission of Paternity,, Affidavit to Use the Surname of the Father, among others. The local civil registry office will then submit a petition to the PSA for approval.15 Mar 2019
  10. Br28016
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    Br28016 Active Member Trusted Member

    I got that bit but risk that one or other may have been married to someone else which is a whole different problem.
  11. Lee Adams
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    Lee Adams Active Member

    Did your British Father register your birth at the British embassy?
  12. tiredpretendingtobeokay
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    tiredpretendingtobeokay New Member

    No, he just said that he didn't have plan at this moment (btw, he is getting older)
  13. tiredpretendingtobeokay
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    tiredpretendingtobeokay New Member

    he's already married to someone else in UK before he met my mother : ( Yeah, it so complicated for me, he doesn't want to cooperate
  14. tiredpretendingtobeokay
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    tiredpretendingtobeokay New Member

    I don't know, I think he didn't. He doesn't want to talk when I go with this topic
  15. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Was your mother married at the time of your birth?
  16. tiredpretendingtobeokay
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    tiredpretendingtobeokay New Member

    nope.
  17. tiredpretendingtobeokay
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    tiredpretendingtobeokay New Member

    I appreciate y'll taking the time to respond, thank you. Given that my father is unwilling to comply, I suppose I will stop hoping for this.
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  18. John Surrey
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    If he is truly your father then maybe he might help you apply for a UK Passport.

    Perhaps you could start by asking him if he'd be prepared to pay for you both to take a DNA test to prove it.

    If your father is unwilling to do that I think your only option is to ask Raffy Tulfo if there's anything he can do to help you!

    Maybe Raffy could cover the DNA testing costs... or talk to your father... or something...

    If Raffy can't help you - I guess no one can and you have to give it up :(
  19. bigmac
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    do you have your fathers address ?

    Maybe you should write to him.

    Or his wife
  20. Druk1
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    That might cause more trouble than it solves.
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