Nazi runs for Philippine President

You should have told him "you don't get paid any more for working harder"

I believe I read somewhere that in Japan, if you lose your Job, it's tantamount to losing your identity and a lot of people can't stand the shame and kill themselves. I get the impression that the long hours are a source of pride speaking to my colleagues. As for me, I'm not a big believer in 'never mind the quality, look at the hours'. I'm more a fan of 'Hear all, see all, say nowt. Eat all, drink all, pay nowt. And if tha ever does owt for nowt, do it for thissen'.

You can only admire the men who fought in WW1 and WW2 we owe them so much.

I enjoy everything

I'm not a believer in long hours either, I think it becomes counter productive once you reach the point where you feel tired and weary.

As the saying goes "its what you do in a day not how many hours you work."

Absolutely. The soldiers who fought in either or both world wars (!) have my absolute admiration.

@BlueberryCheeseCake and I went to see Churchill's grave at Bladon the other weekend. Then the other night we watched another episode of the 'world at war' - episode 11 - red star - which I find one of the more moving episodes of the series.



I reproduce this poem which is narrated during the episode.

Wait for me, and I'll come back!
Wait with all you've got!
Wait, when dreary yellow rains
Tell you, you should not.
Wait when snow is falling fast,
Wait when summer's hot,
Wait when yesterdays are past,
Others are forgot.
Wait, when from that far-off place,
Letters don't arrive.
Wait, when those with whom you wait
Doubt if I'm alive.
Wait for me, and I'll come back!
Wait in patience yet
When they tell you off by heart
That you should forget.
Even when my dearest ones
Say that I am lost,
Even when my friends give up,
Sit and count the cost,
Drink a glass of bitter wine
To the fallen friend -
Wait! And do not drink with them!
Wait until the end!
Wait for me and I'll come back,
Dodging every fate!
"What a bit of luck!" they'll say,
Those that would not wait.
They will never understand
How amidst the strife,
By your waiting for me, dear,
You had saved my life.
Only you and I will know
How you got me through.
Simply - you knew how to wait -
No one else but you.

Konstantin Simonov - 1941

I used to work for a company in Glos, there was a police station nearby and a tramp was always camped outside, the story g

The world at war series is excellent (brilliant opening music too), it gets the true feeling of war over to the viewer much better than any of the modern day equivalent, I wish my missus was interested in it, she moans a bit when I watch war documentaries and she has to go to the bedroom to watch her house makeover or baking programmes

I enjoy any war history and try to visit points of interest on my travels the last of which was a couple of months ago when I was working in Saint Nazaire France, I visited the huge German submarine pen which was the biggest ever built.

This looks like the start of an intersting story but I think something has gone wrong somewhere?

Yes its a great series. We're on our second watching of it now. We sat through all the episodes in the Philippines with some red horse and now we are revisiting it again here. I'm very lucky that my wife is interested in history and I feel lucky to have come back to england where there is so much of it to see. We are making plans to go see the Auchwitz war museum in Poland - I've never been - and the museum at Bletchley Park. There's also a battle of Britain museum in Kent. Its a shame, however, that all the great battleships of that era were broken up. Even the HMS Warspite, which I gather was the most decorated warship of WWII and the most decorated ship ever of the royal navy, was sold for scrap.

A GREAT series that I first watched as a kid. I have all the episodes on my laptop and external HD and watch them again and again...
There is a new series on the History channel that is similar with brand new never seen before footage..I find it fascinating.
The next series I'm looking forward to the most on history is "Hunting Hitler" at the end of the month..
Still no evidence of the story about him committing suicide in his bunker...I think it is very reasonable to believe he could have made it to Argentina and lived out his life in other parts of South America.
Traditional historians say its 2000% baldadash.. I ask them to prove that statement with hard facts..
They cannot.

Yeah that must have been interesting. I seem to remember reading in 'the dam busters' book that the RAF dropped special steel bombs on submarine pens in france to bore through the concrete and blow up inside...

My mother never forgave my father (who had spent WW2 in the Navy!) for making her sit through "The Cruel Sea"

Six or seven times the allies bombed the bunker at Saint Nazaire to no avail, the bombs you are talking about were fore runners of the bunker buster that is used today.

Funnily enough "The Cruel Sea" was the only video my father had, he spent WW2 in the merchant navy on the BP tankers doing the Atlantic run.

I agree ,Im so fortunate that hubby loves history too ,it's very interesting how the past shaped up the present.The world at war series always brings me tears ..I salute those people who fought for it and never give up .

Did something happen here @Timmers ? It looks like the start of an interesting story and I can't see the rest of it..

I think its brilliant that you have a love of WW2 history, you obviously get the bigger picture and appreciate what these fine men did in the name of their country.

The best thing about the World at War series for me is the fact that there is no spin, the story of war is told exactly the way it was using original film footage and interviews with the people that were involved.

I've been working too hard, didn't finish today till 3pm

I meant to say that I worked for a company in Glos and there was a police station next to the plant where a tramp always hung out, apparently the story goes that he was a Japanese prisoner of war and could no longer cope with being enclosed due to his time in internment. Whether it was true or just folklore I do not know.

Wow you're very lucky ,your father was part of the Great War ..I salute your father ... I Envy you ..you're mother must had lots of story to tell ..I think it's very interesting how patiently wives waiting for their husbands to go back home from war and some didn't make it .

Yup so true ,it's amazing how this footage ,bits and pieces gathered together to be able to tell to new generations and hopefully appreciates what all those Heroes done for us to enjoy what we have today .Im blessed to see this documentary it's very detailed ..My husband spent all night just catching the next series everytime we started watching and woke up with swollen eyes Hahahah..

You usually found that most men would not talk about their time at war, you would just maybe get little snippets of information from them, especially after a drink or two.

I learned more about my fathers war years after he died, my mother found a diary that he kept which showed his innermost feelings and his concerns about being torpedoed especially, it sounded like he was living on a knife edge especially given that he was an engineer and spent most of his time in the engine room, not the place to be if the ship is hit and sinking.

I cant think of a worst way to die than being in the sea at dead of night, covered in oil knowing its only a matter of minutes before you meet your maker.

Brave men indeed.

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also called the eternal zero

They married after the war. My mother crossed the Atlantic in a wartime convoy herself, and was very happy to talk about how she had been told to keep an eye on the Swordfish biplanes returning to the deck of the escort carrier - if they still had depth charges on their wings, that was good (they had not sighted a U-boat). If the depth charges were not there - keep your lifejacket on!