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my energy supplier has gone phut.

Discussion in 'Consumer Concerns' started by bigmac, Sep 15, 2021.

  1. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Apologies. Octopus haven’t gone bust. Looks like they are doing a mopping up job in our area.
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    I think someone on the same program was touting the benefits of wind power as a resource. Using it to generate hydrogen etc etc. It sounds promising and coming down in price too. Perhaps the canny plan from Boris is to switch over to that source but I fear it isn’t quite ready yet either.
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    i never take any notice from any political party. Mostly its over exaggerated bad news..to get us ready..then its not so bad after all--and we breathe a sigh of relief. Like tax hikes.
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    Yeah I don't think Boris ever had an eye on the ball with this or a lot of other subjects :D

    Had we been diversifying away from fossil fuels for the last few decades this would not be happening but we weren't, no one had any eyes on any balls and this was inevitable.

    This crisis will pass but it is the first of many to come in the energy sector.

    Wind wave and solar are clean, electric cars powered from hydrogen would be really clean particularly if the manufacturing processes were powered by the same sources, it would be a nice world where the air was clear and clean.

    Now think back at all the naysayers, clean energy is too expensive windmills kill birds they don't run all the time, I wonder how renewables will compare now to long term gas and gas generation costs like this and one day these kind of prices will be the norm for power, fracking might alleviate the pressure for a while but it just lets them kick the ball down the road.

    And one of the distortions of the market that I have found quite funny in recent years was how all these energy companies all of whom seem to be selling you green renewable energy all at the same time, how come now they are all going bust because of gas prices :D

    I never believed for one minute that they were all actually selling you wind, hydro, wave and solar, it's another reason this whole energy market is a joke, at least some of the bigger names like Octopus are actually generators but in my day you had the SSEB, the Hydro Board and the CEGB all of whom operated integrated generation and transmission systems and who did a really good job of planning national generating capacity well in advance.
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    Boris doesn't have a plan :D

    Hydrogen infrastructure has barely begun, it would be a great battery for Wind and solar and remove the dumb arguments about the wind does not always blow at the right times, well it blows enough at the wrong times to generate a good amount of hydrogen which could just become the norm and would make wind and solar even more economically viable.

    We very likely still need a lot of nuclear for baseload I don't see any other option to be honest because I don't believe you can scale other energy sources quickly enough, not globally, I would like to see major effort put into Thorium reactors but it probably won't happen here, interestingly it is happening in China who do have a plan for the long term future and who are using their dirty fuels now to get them to that clean future and future prosperity, their future will be a mixed renewable and nuclear future and they are willing to spend the fossil fuels now to get there.
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    Once upon a time there was only British Gas, that I can remember.

    I hope you are wrong about Boris.

    Renewable prices are coming down. Not certain but that guy Martin Lewis or someone on his program made the point that renewables were now on a par with what gas prices will turn out to be over the next 6 months. I was just thinking last night, maybe, just maybe he does have his eye on the ball, knows exactly what he is doing and is engineering the change to a renewable energy world. No, am fantasising there!
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    :D

    I watched a video the other day from his mayoral years in London where he was being cross examined on climate change issues, he was getting his info on climate change from Piers Corbyn and was pretty much a climate change denier at that time :D

    Found it.
    Awkward video of Boris Johnson being accused of relying on Piers Corbyn for climate change info resurfaces | indy100
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Indeed.
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    Am sure Keith would enjoy that if he hasn’t seen it already. @KeithAngel
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