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How Apple Just Changed the Entire Industry

Discussion in 'Technology Advice' started by aposhark, Dec 4, 2020.

  1. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

  3. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Don't talk to me about apple products...........
  4. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    It looks like a lot of this is due to the 5nm process, Intel are not even at 7nm yet for CISC processors (nm = nanometres).
  5. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    I remember the documentary on apple facilitating the modern day slave market.
  6. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    I have an Apple Mac desktop at home. It’s about 6 or 7 years old now and runs really well. It isn’t mine, it’s my employers. I have a wireless mouse and keyboard to go with it. I enjoy using it. It is robust and reliable. I may have to give it to him back though but he got his money’s worth out of it.

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    I also have an iPad which was given to me as a gift by my employer. I use it all the time. It is robust, reliable and easy to use. I would miss it if I lost it or broke it. And Mrs Ash and I both have iPhones. She is looking at the 12 I think it is (losing count) but having to wait to get the money together. They are expensive but hold their value well on the second hand market. We bought our daughter a mobile phone recently. It’s a Samsung :lol:
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  7. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    My mrs wants a new phone..christmas an all that.

    Ive cocked a deaf un.
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  8. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    That explains why we argue sometimes John ;) I'm a Microsoft guy :D

    But seriously your Mac is running what is essentially a derivative of the Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) version of Unix and I have a lot of respect for Unix, unlike Linux BSD has roots going all the way back to the beginnings of Unix in 1970.

    Jobs built Next which was forked from Unix 8 which came from BSD, there were later cross fertilisations from Free BSD to the Mac OS Universe, I played around with a few variants of Unix in the late 1980s I am very glad that my friend and employer introduced me to Unix back then as it is a very robust OS and of course very heavily used in science, but my career has been in business where Windows has dominated for the last three decades, I really appreciate understanding the basics of Unix now as I find my young team members struggle sometimes with basic concepts, which had they used Unix they would have been forced to understand.

    Personally I would never pay the Apple tax and that keyboard in your picture makes me cringe :D

    I would go nuts typing on that, both because of the key travel and the layout but that is an inevitable result of having worked in the PC environment for the last 4 decades.

    I do have concerns about Apple's planned obsolescence in devices these days, they are intentionally designed to be extremely difficult to repair and they do design in sub standard components on motherboards, I watch a guy called Louis Rossman who runs a New York repair facility for Apple products and he is scathing, he works directly on the boards diagnosing and replacing chips and other components and repairing defective tracks on the boards.

    My employer supplies me with a Surface Book 2 which is a very expensive device and in many ways very nice and to date was more powerful than the Apple equivalents but the Apple M1 SoC will change that, I'm going to have to hand that back one day too, but while it would be nice to hold onto it I will buy my own second hand ThinkPad's instead and they will give me equivalent power at a fraction of the price of the Microsoft or Apple equivalents and they generally feel more of an engineering purists machine, I take great delight in the ergonomics of older ThinkPad's but newer ones try to be Apple clones.
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  9. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    There was a piece on the radio the other day about this and in particular the use of an I Phone, Rory Gethin Jones (IT commentator for the BBC spends an average of 9 hours a day on his!) to counter the use a women came on and stated she had binned her Iphone and had bought the following instead
    Diary
    Sat Nav
    Small pocket camera
    Personal organiser
    Radio
    TV
    Media Player
    Calculator
    Dictionary
    cheap mobile
    word processor
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  10. Anon220806
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    06945D6C-18E0-40A7-AA79-1CC9AFD1F7B7.jpeg Oh and we also have a Homepod. Nice bit of kit. But am getting Mrs Ash an Alexa Echo for the kitchen, for Christmas.
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  11. Anon220806
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    I had no real choice when I started in 2010. He went out and bought every employee an Apple Mac.

    That isn’t my Apple Mac in the pic. Mine is actually a slimmer version (side view). The one in the pic is considerably older. But the keyboard and mouse is the same. It’s all very neat, free of wires. All the guts of the Apple Mac is in the carcass you can see.
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  12. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Exactly. And more.

    We use ours as a Satnav quite a bit.
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  13. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    I remember these. My first main employer after university had these:

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  14. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    The thing is they rarely breakdown. In my own experience and in my employer’s experience.
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  15. DavidAlma
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    DavidAlma Well-Known Member

    I'm an Apple guy through and through. Had every model iPhone from the iPhone 3 onwards, iPods, iPads, Mac Desktops, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro. Apart from a cracked screen on my iPhone 4, a result of my dropping it, I've never had a single issue with any of my devices.
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  16. Anon220806
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    Same here. I had one ipad where the home button failed which I had repaired but other than that, over a 10 year period I have had loads of Apple devices and they just simply continue working. The operating system is particularly robust.
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