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Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Christopher Thorne, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Iit will be a problem only if one makes it so.

    Make 100% sure that the biological father is not aware that you are around, or sparks will fly, and you will be taken to the cleaners.

    Ideally, the mother should be the only person named on the baby's birth certificate, as it could be a bit of a bugger trying to bring the child out of Philly.
    I suspect that it will be two lots of visa fees unfortunately, but you will have to live with that.
  2. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Are you intending on driving overthere...???

    I would seriously re-consider, and not attempt such suicidal thing whilst on vacation...

    It will be like open season on the foreigner..............
  3. Christopher Thorne
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    yeah i guessed that the 2 visa's but when you are in love what ever the cost it doesn't matter :) the father will know about me as i plan to stay for a year but he has nothing to do with the child in question and has another girlfriend which he left my fiance for so fingers crossed he dont kick off not sure about names on the birth cert il ask tonight :)
    but how could i get taken to the cleaners ?
  4. Christopher Thorne
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    lol Aromulus
    no i wont drive it was bad enough in spain lol
  5. oss
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    I hired a car twice Dom, I had to bribe the police the second time when they stopped me for hesitation at a set of lights, I nearly turned the wrong way down a not very obvious one way street :) 500 peso.

    It was fun driving over there but I would note that the first time was Easter weekend and Manila was deserted as is the norm for Easter :D

    I also put the right hand front wheel into a ditch that would have landed me in the salt marsh, 10 metres from Nanay's house, if I had gone a few inches further, but 10 young guys with huge wide smiles came and lifted the car out of the ditch by hand :D

    Only mishaps I had and I have driven a fair bit over there now :) (no damage to the car thank god)
  6. Christopher Thorne
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    lol oss il let her drive ;)
  7. Aromulus
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    You will be open to emotional blackmail, my friend.

    Sort of....

    If you want to take mt daughter away you must pay me $$$$$$$$$$$$$$...

    Or it could happen that at the Airport you my be stopped and charged with human trafficking becaus of a "reklamo" he has instigated against you if you haven't given him his 30 pieces of silver.

    So make sure that if he is named on the birth certificate, he legally relinquishes any claims on the baby, by signing affidavits and whatnots...

    Only watching your back, pal......

    Am sure other members will agree with me....

    Oh, and if she is married, just stay away from known areas if you intend to play married couples before she is legally annulled from her marriage...

    Adultery is considered a crime in Philly....
  8. Christopher Thorne
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    hmmm ok thx for the heads up she has never been married fingers crossed il find out later :/
  9. oss
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    Christopher this is very important advice from Dom, it would have been much more serious if the girl in question had been married, and the husband found out about the relationship and complained, if so you could get jailed for 7 years and so could she, adultery is a serious crime in the Phils.

    More to the point as the above would not seem to apply here, it is not unusual for blood family to demand money to make things go smoothly. If the father is on the birth certificate he may try to make your life hard by implying that he will not allow his son or daughter to be removed from the Philippines without his consent, unless he gets something under the table. All sorts of other family problems and issues may creep out the woodwork at the same time, they can be very imaginative.

    The problem is they can make things a misery even if they don't have a leg to stand on, and if they smell money then the chances are they will.

    I don't want to be too negative but I've seen this first hand with others, I have had my own problems too but luckily my close family are pretty good this way, it's the further extended family that will come round trying to find a million ways to reason that they need help in one way or another and if they have something that they see as a creative bargaining chip then you can be on the wrong end of some serious unpleasantness, so best to keep yourself to yourself.

    Irrespective of all that, you may still find it difficult to get a child out the country not just because of Philippine law but because of our rules, you may need to provide some pretty compelling proof of relationship to get a child out without adoption.

    I am not 100% sure about this but that would be my gut feeling.
  10. oss
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    You beat me to it Dom and made the point better than me, but yes I agree completely!
  11. oss
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    A pretty old link and not the one I was looking for but this chap David Scott got into a right mess a few years back :-

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...years-Filipino-jail-adultery-goes-hiding.html

    He's been on banged up abroad along with his partner in the last few months, happily David and his partner are in the UK now but his partner is separated from her kids in the Phils with no easy way back to them.
  12. Christopher Thorne
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    ok thx its was going so well there is nothing i can do to stop them kicking off so fingers crossed :erm:
  13. Christopher Thorne
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    thx for the link il be careful :D
  14. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    You and some others know me from old..............

    I tell it the way I see it, and coudn't care less if someone doesn't like the answers........

    It ain't no skin off my nose....

    We both have been there, read the book, watched the movie, got the hat and t-shirts and eaten the real thing ...

    So we sort of know, by now, how to step out of the house or hotel and be safe...ish.............
  15. oss
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    It's simply a case of "be prepared" and "keep your wits about you" :)

    If you are going to be over there for a year or so you will learn a lot, probably a lot more than I have learned as although I have spent more time there, it has been in a lot of shorter stints :)

    Go in with eyes wide open and you will probably do fine and have a great time!
  16. oss
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    Too right Dom :like:
  17. Aromulus
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    Oh............ One small hint, for which you will be very grateful in future...........

    Do not stay with the family, but rent a condo or apartment a few miles away.

    You will be expected to buy food and drinks for all and sundry coming out of the woodwork, as you will probably be asked to buy several items to make the house that little more welcoming, ie aircontioner, working fridge-freezer, new flat screen telly... blah. blah. blah... Money for school, transportation, medicines, lechon, repairs to a long lost cousin's jeepney...

    The further away you are from her family, the better your relationship will thrive.... If she loves you, she will shield you from all of that as much as possible, but sometime she will give in to some "help" requests... Because you cannot have it all your way....
  18. Christopher Thorne
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    oh we both thought it would be a good idea to stay at hers she lives with her family :(
    i did think i would get asked to buy the food but not a fridge to put it in lol
  19. Aromulus
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    Your 12 months worth of money won't last 4 and 1/2 if you stay with the family.............:erm:
  20. Christopher Thorne
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    good point il rent for the best i think :)

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