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Filipino tradition of courting vs european man

Discussion in 'Relationship Advice' started by ad4ms3, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. ad4ms3
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    I met a fantastic women online. She is filipina, I'm polish. My biggest challenge is still to arrive. Once I am in Manila i will have to take a challenge of courting a girl and her family. Yes, I do admire her, she is adorable and I am ready to do it. I would like to ask for an advice all the filipinos here on forum. I have read about courting a girl and her family but I am not familiar with it? No all steps will work (eg going out with mutual friends as I will be there alone, no serenades - my voice is far from good). Any tips, advices? I am there for 2-3 weeks every 6 or more months so I will have to speed up things :) What should I give to her family? Any dos and donts? Thank you very much in advancd for all replies...
  2. Kuya
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    First of all, welcome to British Filipino :welcome:

    I am assuming that you are a Catholic (being Polish) and so is your girlfriend, one very important tip is that your girlfriend is very likely to be very religious! She will go to Church almost every Sunday and take part in religious festivities, which you will get to hear about.. In Cebu today (3rd Sunday of January), there is a huge festival called Sinulog, which celebrates the conversion of the first Filipinos to Catholicism. If your girl comes from Cebu or a surrounding island she will likely visit Cebu just for that festival alone..

    So, basically - respect her religion.. If you both share the same religion then good, o problem. If like me and my mahal, you don't... Tread carefully.

    When you visit her you will be expected to bring gifts for her as well as her family. These gifts can be small items or even things such as cakes or treats. Simple things, but considered important. If you take her out on a date, expect to have a relative or more accompany you, there is an article here that will give you some ideas about that.

    Also, if you plan to eventually marry her. Then keep records of your relationship for immigration purposes!

    As for serenades... In a KTV lounge, if you sing to her she will appreciate it, even if you have the voice of a cat getting strangled.

    But anyway, when did you meet her? Recently?
  3. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Another lamb to the slaughter...............:vhappy:


    Welcome aboard...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:welcome:
  4. ad4ms3
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    Haha best greeting ever of yours :D
    Hello to all of you too :)

    Thank you for your replay. It looks like I will have to stay in the hotel.. Actually she asked me whether my filipino friends I work with have ever mention courting. I googled it and looked kinda *scary*...
    She is from Manila. And yes, we are catholics. I met her on one of the dating websites last week.
    I read an article in your link. Having a company is a nice idea. It's so cool that I am getting on very well with all of my filipino friends that I am looking forward to seeing her "bodyguard" :)
    These are plans yet but we are honest to each other that if everything continues as it is I will not hesitate of going to Manila.
  5. Kuya
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    I will be flying to Manila in 11 days and blogging my experience here:like:

    As you have only just met I think that before settling down r anything it is important to visit her and get to know her in person. And this is the perfect time of year to eave Europe!!

    Don't worry about her "bodyguard", you will find time alone at some point.. ;)
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    Welcome ad4ms3 :welcome:

    Second time I went over to Manila Ana had a bodyguard, her big sister Terisita and it was a good thing, she went home eventually but it was good that she was there, it made sense as we had only met once before and although we got on great what could she expect from me on my second visit?

    It gave both of us time to settle back into the relationship we already had, that can be hard sometimes.
  7. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Hi ad4ms3,

    Welcome.

    Just a word of caution. Please be careful and try to get to know your girlfriend well first.
    You have only just met her on a dating website and you don't really know anything about her yet.

    Try to talk with her over a webcam and be sure she is who she says she is.

    It is common for Filipino men to post pretty photos of girls as themselves !
    In fact I have seen them having multiple chat boxes going at the same time :erm:

    Do not send any money to her until you have known her for quite a while. If she asks you for money because of a "family problem" don't do it. The nice Filipinas would never ask for money in this way.

    There are thousands of stories of men who have been tricked or "scammed".

    Be careful :erm: and take your time.

    Best of luck and ask questions here. Many of us have been to the Philippines many times and know some of the problems that can arise.

    A true Filipina makes a wonderful wife and mother, but there are many poor people who are skilled at getting money from (mostly) Western men.
  8. oss
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    Very good advice Mike :D

    I've seen the same in café's over there :D
  9. Aromulus
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    That, was going to be my next post........... :erm:

    But looks like as if Mike got there first....:(

    Nothing much to add, really.

    Just re-iterate what the others have said already.

    No matter what, do not send money.
    Even if you are sent on a guilt trip........

    There are some professional and callous scammers there, with excuses that will bring tears to your eyes, don't fall for it.

    Establish lines of communication, don't make too many promises, and take the ones you receive with a huge pinch of salt.
    After a while you will have made a mental picture of the relationship, and be able to judge.
    Don't let misguided feelings make your mind up for you.

    I am not tight at all, but only after I met my wife, I was asked for some financial help, but it was a genuine emergency (stroke) and I was happy to have been of some help.

    The most important thing to remember is that you will not just marry the woman of your dreams, but the whole family too........ Only you cannot take them to bed.........
  10. yuna
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    welcome here ad4ms3 :welcome: and good luck on your travel to manila and meeting the girl amd just like what others say, be careful as there are lots of scammers here in Manila. Get to know the girl really, really well first. Don't send her any money and if she asked for that at an early stage of your relationship, I'd be questioning her identity and personality at once. Just be careful okay? If she's genuine, you're one lucky guy :) :like:
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    To add to this.. Be a friend of hers on Facebook! Even if you both are not yet ready to be open and be in a relationship yet, it helps with sharing photo's and stuff. If she is genuine, she will have no problem with this but if she has a few guys on the go then you know she won't be on Facebook... ;)

    Or she will have a fake Facebook profile, and those are pretty easy to spot.
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    Thank you very much for all your advices :)
    I don't use facebook and don't want to. I'm tired of it - we all are surrounded by it :)
    She described her family as middle classed. They aren't rich yet no poor. Her and her father were very active and helpful towards poor people affected by last flooding in Philippines.
    I was asked whether I would go there even for couple of days just to meet her. Feels like she is interested as well but again my decision will have to be wise.
    On a very beginning she was told that I have no money. I am living an ordinary life. She accepted it.
    I will follow all your advices, thanks for the support :)
    What should be the first thing to do when I see her on the airport? She might be there alone. I don't want to burn everything and my concerns are culture, tradition differences.
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    Hi again,
    Be prepared for her to be accompanied by many family members.
    She definitely will not be alone and if you go for a meal, you will be expected to pay for her family members!
    Even though you have told her you are not rich, Filipinos will still see you as being rich compared to them.
    This is one of the downsides of having a Filipina girlfriend, although when you get to know her, and if she is as decent as you say, you will see a Filipinas many beautiful ways.

    I would be very surprised if there was any activity in the bedroom. If she has any hopes for the future with you, she will ensure that you have the right respectful attitude to her. The Philippines is nowhere near as liberated as Poland or any other Western country, so be prepared to wait for physical contact. In fact, she will not show any PDA (public displays of affection) and this will make you worry. Patience is the name of the game, especially if she is from the province, i.e. not a city girl.

    Take your time when you arrive, but once again I urge you to slow down your horses and get to know her for a while first before you visit. If you cannot do this, just enjoy her friendship and enjoy the marvellous ways of the Filipino people. They are very unique and emotional as a generalisation :D
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    There is absolutely no way of going there without knowing her first. It was just a chit-chat about me going there this summer for few days. I don't know yet whether I will be able to afford it in the first place. I take all your advices seriously.
    Assuming I'm going there for 3 weeks. How much money in pounds would I roughly need (going out, seeing the country, restaurants, hotel)?
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2012
  15. Aromulus
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    To start off, and to be on the safe side, no less than £1000.
    A credit card or two.
    Full inoculations.
    Malaria tablets.
    Imodium, just in case of the trots....

    Plan ahead were to stay, book your hotels online directly, you will find it works out cheaper than through comparison websites or agents.

    Make the rule with your gf that you will not entertain any more than 3/4 people on occasions.

    But to make sure to win her over, send some fresh roses for her birthday or whatever takes your fancy...
    usually www.islandrose.net is very reliable, and reasonable in prices, the flowers are as fresh as they can be and if you have any gripes they do split themselves to help you.

    I found that the combination of roses and chocolates works a treat............
    She will be the toast of the neighborhood and she will revel in making other friends jealous...

    This trait in Pinays, needs another thread.............

    One of this days I will sit down and spend a couple of hours trying to make sense of it all............
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    Its a long way to go for a date and your a long way off knowing this lady ,if you do decide to go to the Fils you would do well to connect to the expats living there as they will know the nice ladies through theit
    r wives fami9lies , the net is a bit of a lottery and it took me six months on line and 3 months living with my girlfriend to find out who she was the first time.

    Remember if you do find the one then the expense will be large but if you do it right the rewards are big to my darling wife has been worth going broke for, oh one further thing an orphan would be worth her wieght in gold lol
  17. Aromulus
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    Besides, my sis-in-law Betsy is still there on that shelf.............:oops:
  18. ad4ms3
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    Yeah, I know its a gamble.
    The more we chat the more I am convinced I made a good shot:) On Sunday we'll see each other for the first time through webcame.
    As much as we chat she is really family orientated.. anyway, we'll see how things go on sunday... thank you all for replies and advices....
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    Don't just disappear. Keep in touch, eh...?
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    Welcom to the forum ad4ms3.

    I think my experience of courting a Filipina is somewhat different to the norm, breaking every rule in the book and violating accepted Catholic customs. But my loved one does not adhere to the Catholic faith, both of us are really agnostic though I don't think she is familiar with that term.

    We met on-line and, in person, 7 months later. I did not meet her family or friends for a few days and we shared a hotel room from the night we met. I did meet her family of course and neighbours, friends, romans, countryman... In fact, there was a very big street party, mainly in my honour (I think).

    That was the only time my loved one has ever asked for money - to pay for that party and a night out with friends a few days later! Most of the time she feels shame because I send her money, but she works off her little cotton socks to earn money - 10-12 hours/day, 7 days a week.

    I hope you can take time to read all the stories on here - they will surely open your eyes!

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