Filipina women living in the UK

none of them have ever been able to come up with a single Filipino of either sex that has a bad word to say about me. Filipinos think blokes that drink beers, ride motorbikes, sing videoke and fool around with girls are normal. It's the sexual predators that marry women 30 years younger than they are and then traffic them all around the world that they think are a bit strange.

that remark doesn't enrage me as much as it might because my wife is only 6 years younger than I am and because I already explained that marriage is not trafficking. But there are people on here whom I am very sure that would be very offended by that remark. I would seriously consider retracting that remark if I was you. I don't think it's fair.

well - read one of my more recent replies in the 'Filipina travelling to Thailand from the Philippines' thread where I know for a fact that there is guys that literally 'send' for Filipino women to come across an international border and be their companions for a week or two.

all this seems entirely voluntary - although expedited by the transfer of an amount of cash in a one-way direction, of course - and nobody appears to be twisting anyone's arm. The guys get a companion and the girls - apart from profiting financially - get to learn a whole lot of new interesting stuff about Buddhist temples and noodles that they never knew before. I'm not so sure I would. But some people would make out that this surely would come under the label of 'people trafficking'.

I've never 'sent' for a Filipina to come across an international border like they do, but more than several times I've sent Filipinas air tickets from like Davao or Manila to Cebu. Even ones that I've never actually met in real life. Is that 'people trafficking' ? And if it is 'people trafficking', and I happened to be married to one of them, would that make any difference?

34 years younger in my case. I now believe in leaving wild flowers where they're growing, so no trafficking on the horizon... but I'll let you off this time. lol

It is not what whipster said anyway, it was what he said Filipinos think.

If you want to send people you have never met air tickets, and they want to use them, that's an arrangement between you and them. As I said in another thread, your comparison with marriage is meaningless and there isn't a lot of point in arguing about that.

There is a world of difference between someone who meets, falls in love with, and marries a foreign national, and the rather grubby world of 'sex by arrangement' to which you refer.

If you had a long-term relationship with one woman and actually fell in love, perhaps you would view things differently?

I'm 25 years older than my wife, and we do laugh at the concept of the young Filipino woman and her older Western husband. It is a rather amusing cliche, even though it's one we fit in to (in theory. In practice it just seems perfectly normal)

I'm not sure Whipster is referring to all of these strange marriages though, just a certain type.

I also think he's deliberately trying to wind some people up in retaliation to people having a pop at him.

that's exactly it. I'm not attacking marriage as an institution. Just pointing out that just because a marriage certificate is in there as part of the equation, then that means that there cannot be abuse or exploitation going on. There can and there is. I'm sure of it.

I don't think it helps if we have a direct reference to his exploits on here. We are entirely different to forums elsewhere and that is partly why the link was removed. I personally prefer you to stay with us and I have openly supported you in the past when you were going to leave.

I don't condone his behaviour and to be honest I don't care. He's in a minority and its unusual for someone of that nature to be on a forum like this were the predominant audience is committed to stable relationships and/or marriage.

I would think that most people on this forum are happily married or are hoping to be.
There has never been a lot of thought about single life, by and large we have fiancees, wives and some of us, children.
I would hope that we do not concentrate on things that most of us do not prescribe to.

Ah, we were thinking the same thing at the same time Mr. HaloHalo

I can't see this happening as the moderators and members would not allow this to happen.
By you leaving, you would not have any way of helping to keep this forum one that we are all proud to participate in.
Take a few days off and rethink.

I suppose I could argue that I was exploited as part of my first marriage. It must be nice to marry a guy and then divorce him after five years. By my reckoning that marriage cost me $416 for every day that I was in it.

Consequently, I can't disagree that both abuse and exploitation could happen within the confines of marriage. However, I feel that someone travelling to the Philippines to sleep with large numbers of women in a planned manner would be more likely to be viewed as being engaged in exploitative behaviour.

I agree. It doesn't seem to me that this forum is in danger of becoming preoccupied with the single life. The demographic would seem to prevent it. I don't see anything wrong with an adult discussion of the subject though which is why I broached it, although I'm beginning to regret it now.

Its great we arnt all the same personally I think its good time by time to have our Ideas and attitudes and perhaps our sense of humour challenged Theres no way Mark will leave where else can he peddle his judgemental wares lol

I'll stick my hand up! The woman in the avatar is 33 years younger than I, just as she was when that picture was taken in May 2011, and in her own words, "You don't need a daughter; you've got me!" This age gap was not planned; neither of us was "looking for someone" when we met. I drink beer and ride motorbikes, just as she does herself, but I am usually discouraged from attempting to dance or to sing videoke - I am allowed some Simon and Garfunkel and some of the easier Beatles tracks.

Building and keeping a relationship across a big age gap needs constant hard work. I have made real efforts to get on with her friends and she has done the same with mine, whether this has involved hitting the discos in Quezon City or long muddy walks in January in England. In both cases the effort has paid off. It helps that she is the youngest in her family and her parents are from the generation before mine. So far as her parents and her siblings are concerned I am the best thing since white rice but its not because I am a "rich Kano"; it's because I am not the sort of deadbeat she used to go in for, and, as her mother says, I "treat her like a Princess", and I have done so consistently. Her little boy announced at breakfast last week that he wants to change his name to mine, which is a compliment that I treasure, but its fair to say that K has also made huge efforts with my children.

There is nothing easier for a man of my age to default to being a Boring Old Fart and nothing more absurd than for a man of my age to try to be trendy. There's a very fine line. It certainly helps that we can always default to "When Harry Met Sally mode" - we are great friends and enjoy each others' company.

Am I a sexual predator? I would like to think that I am not - and there are certainly much cheaper ways to get laid...

I personally think that this whole thread should be deleted by admin, not exactly a good advertisement for prospective members perusing the site, too many people have risen to the bait and the thread is now in the gutter.

I'm not aiming at the post above by Andrew, I always enjoy his posts, its just the general tone of the thread, it belongs in the tap room and not the lounge

There is a big difference in the aposhark house between ZZ Top and Beyoncé
We both use headphones a lot to block out each other's "what's that noise" or "I can't stand pop"
It's funny because when I was younger I would not date any girl or woman who didn't like the same music as me and my friends!

K's favourite of all time is actually Bob Marley, who died before she was born and who is fine by me. No ZZ Top; plenty of Rihanna. Has been saying that she wants to walk up the aisle to Grace's "You don't own me" (!)

My wife said she liked the music of AC/DC one day and I almost fell off my satchel.

From Rolling Stone:

K's parents are Sinatra and Humperdinck people; her father even likes big band jazz! To my amazement she had not heard of the Beatles!