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Dna testing in pH

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Richard James, Mar 22, 2024.

  1. Richard James
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    I'm a British citizen and my partner is due to give birth in the philippines this July. She is filipina and we have both never married.
    For me to get my son a British passport do i need to get a DNA test in the philippines to prove I'm the father?
    If so can anyone tell me the process of getting a dna test there that will be recognised by the UK gov.
    Kind regards
    Richard
  2. John Surrey
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    Hi, I'm married...

    But the main thing is to have your name appear on the birth certificate as the father... think that's it.

    Took bloody ages, like over a year for mine the first time I applied - I'm in the Philippines, so earlier you apply the better - if you're in UK probably be easier :like:
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  3. Br28016
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    One question that need to know is whether you were born in the UK. Number of people are born overseas and hence can't pass on citizenship for a child born overseas.

    Assume ok on the born in the UK question then the following link will hopefully be useful.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ppines/applying-for-a-passport-outside-the-uk

    DNA testing isnt a requirement and if I remember correctly HMPO are not allowed to ask for it. You can offer it but think there is only about one lab in manila that they accept as evidence from.

    @oss may also be able to add on this but think historically there was also a requirement to show evidence of being around for the conception, details of the pregnancy including scans.

    That said now I think the requirement is simpler and comes down to you being named on the birth certificate within a reasonable time. Hopefully you will be there for the birth as can then sign the acknowledgement of parentage form and also give permission for the child to use your name. For info if mother is unmarried the child has to use her surname until the acknowledgement of parentage is done and also your agreement to use your surname paperwork is done. This can be done after the birth but better if can be done at the time in terms of evidence for British passport.

    Bit confused as thought your partner was already here on fiancée visa and birth was planned in UK. Also checking you said that you were from Northern Ireland so if born there worth considering the Irish Passport option as may be easier in terms of paperwork.
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  5. Richard James
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    Unfortunately our plans had to change as her family member who was going to look after her kid from a previous relationship fell very ill so we decided to pospone thing and unfortunately she now has to give birth in the philippines. we will have to apply for another fiance visa once the child has a British passport. I think she can possibly apply for British citizenship through our child once they're recognised as a British citizen.
    Sadly we have had to put everything back by about 1 year however I'm fortunate to still meet the new requirements and will be able to spend a few months there once the baby is born. A bit of a costly mess for us but we will get through.
  6. Richard James
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    Thank you Matt. I did read these however because we are not married I wasn't sure whether or not I have to do a dna test to prove I'm the father but hopefully it's not a requirement as it's very costly. We have evidence we were together the whole time she became pregnant.
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  7. PhilPensioner
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    My wife gave birth to our child, in the Philippines before we were married (married a month later).
    Make sure your name is on all birth certificates (hospital- issued, and PSA one).

    Our boy has a British passport now, and dual citizenship....having Filipino passport also. No DNA proof needed (Americans do need it for their passport application process, so don't let them confuse you).
    Keep all proofs of relationship, as you may be brought in for interview in the UK (as I was) by Passport Office staff...just to check on your 'story'. They do not need to interview your partner.

    It does take months for a first child 'born overseas' passport to be processed, but worth the wait for probably the greatest gift you can bestow upon your child. (Yes, I know....UK is getting pretty awful these days, but... :rolleyes: )

    Anyway, my boy is 8 years old now, and last year I took him for a holiday to the UK, to meet his family there. :)
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  8. Richard James
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    Thai k you so much for the information and for telling me your story. Me and my partner have decided to get married there in manaoag this December as I will be able to take a 6 month break so that we are not apart so long. She also has 2 kids from a previous relationship and I would like to take care of them to.
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  9. PhilPensioner
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    You're welcome sir.

    Your intended will of course require a local 'CENOMAR' , showing that she is single and able to marry you, before a marriage licence can be issued (as well as your own required documents). Be careful about being around her kids before they become your stepchildren (I reared two Filipino stepchildren myself, along with my son with my first Filipina wife).
    There is an odd law in the Phils about non-related adults being in the company of minors.

    Anyway, good luck.

    I know Manaoag very well....it being 'just up the road'.
  10. John Surrey
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    I remember I had to get a CENOMAR too... couldn't understand why at the time but I went along with it of course...:)
  11. PhilPensioner
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    In more recent years, CENOMARs are not issued to those UK Citizens wishing to marry here. You have to fill out an online form, and make an appointment to go along to the British Embassy in Manila, for them to countersign a paper form they issue you with, along with a letter to the local registrar here, explaining WHY. (I had to do that in 2015). Of course there are always THICK local officials here, who can't get their head round any changes so, may still ask for a CENOMAR, as, presumably in your case, if it was fairly recent. My first marriage in the Phils in 1991, it was the home -country issued CENOMAR that was required.

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