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Climate Change - The Facts

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Anon04576, Apr 18, 2019.

  1. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Science is not opinion, you clearly have no idea how the world you live in came about over the last 300 years.
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  2. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    You seem to have a pretty close relationship to Tallbloke a man whose website bears a striking resemblence to a well known troll of ex-pats living in the Philippines (he's used exactly the same WordPress theme for pretty much the same reasons although I am NOT suggesting they are one and the same).

    Have a look at this graph below, I already stated that we were in a Solar minimum that is offsetting what could have been much greater impact from heat being trapped in the lower atmosphere, this graph makes it clear.


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    There are other graphs resulting from the work of dedicated people detailing heating and cooling in various layers of the atmosphere so go find them rather than relying on some conspiracy theorist.

    And finally.

    If the sun was responsible for global warming we would expect temperatures to increase in all layers of the atmosphere and that is exactly what we DO NOT SEE.

    What we see is cooling in the upper atmosphere and warming at the lower parts of the atmosphere and at the surface.

    We see that because greenhouse gases are trapping heat in the lower atmosphere which is a dead giveaway that greenhouse gases are to blame.

    But your conspiracy theorist friend Mr Tallbloke does not get that and never will, all he's interested in is internet fame and being controversial.
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  3. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Tallbloke has a page on Aerology which he apparently practices in some way.

    Here is the definition of Aerology https://www.dictionary.com/browse/aerology
    Here's Tallbloke's definition :
    Gobbledegook of the highest order, laughable really.
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  4. oss
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    The mail is simply wrong.

    It takes approximately 4.18 Joules of energy to raise the temperature of 1 gram of water by 1 degree kelvin.

    One thousand grams of water is one litre and one litre = 4 cups of tea roughly.

    So for 60 cups of tea you need to raise 15 litres of water from around 20C to 100C

    4.18J * 80 (degrees) * 1000 grams gives you about 335,000 joules that's what's needed to raise one litre to boiling point, roughly 4 cups of tea.

    1 Kilowatt hour = 3.6 megajoules

    15 litres would = 60 cups of tea so

    15 * 335,000 joules = 5.025 megajoules

    So boiling enough water for 60 cups of tea requires roughly 5.025/3.6 kwh or about 1.4 kilowatt hours.

    And that's assuming they have correctly shared out the allocation of resources across the range I mentioned earlier.

    edit: these are LARGE cups of tea to make the arithmetic easier, 180ml cups would come out at very close to 1Kwh
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    Where in the world are you making this brew and at what time of year? In the middle of winter I estimate my cold water mains supply in west Wales to be around 2 or 3 degrees Celsius. I've just measured my mains supply here and on a warmish May morning it's just 5 degrees, so if I'm the one to brew this tea today, I'd be using 1.64 Kwh - or 1.7 Kwh in my Pembrokeshire kitchen in mid-winter.
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Can you tackle the curvature of the Earth next Oss :)
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  7. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Or the ins and outs of my overdraft!
  8. Markham
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    Markham Guest

    Why - to justify your existence as a Flat Earther? :lol::lol::lol:
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  9. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I don't drink Tea or Coffee and I would have been making it for others in the Phils where I was streaming 2 hour Netflix movies just over a week ago.
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  10. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    If you want to start at 5C I'll go with the 180ml cups of tea and that comes out at 1.19 kwh.
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    i thought you lived in malta ?
  12. oss
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    I don't have an overdraft but I have a 30 page spreadsheet that I put together to manage my finances for the next 6 years, all the formula are linked including my own salary calculator which is almost spot on for tax and NI

    [​IMG]

    I cut a lot of info from this so even if it could be enlarged you would not be able to learn much :D

    The two columns with blank cells either side are my monthly pension contributions employer and me :D
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    Markham Guest

    You're very obviously not a tea (or coffee) drinker: such a quantity would be an affront of those who are! 180 ml is just over half a cup, for heaven's sake! :D
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    Markham Guest

    Ah well, maybe yes or maybe no ;) My IP address (77.111.247.49) indicates I'm in Sweden :).
  15. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I'm using internet figures for a cup of tea.
  16. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Nah you're in Zurich.
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  17. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Citizen of nowhere keeping his NHS footprint alive:)
  18. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    on the run!
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  19. Markham
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    Markham Guest

    With COPD?!! I wish!!
  20. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Yeah..me too

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