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Cheapest fast safe postage from Phils

Discussion in 'Money Matters' started by Ian martin, Mar 25, 2019.

  1. Ian martin
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    I have to send a birth certificate to UK, the only quote I have (LBC) is 2400p. That's a fortune!
    Does anyone know a cheaper way by courier ?
    Every letter that I have ever sent TO Philippines by royal mail has disappeared, I strongly recommend insuring or registering all letters.
  2. Markham
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    LBC uses DHL as its international carrier. You may find FedEx or DHL themselves to be marginally cheaper.
  3. Bootsonground
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    I used DHL to send my passport for renewal..I thought 2,500 was very reasonable considering their online tracking service.. Very detailed,sometimes hourly updates give me peace of mind.. Worth every Peso IMO!
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  4. Stupot10
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    We have used DHL and the service was faultless and arrived in the U.K. in 4 days from Mindanao.
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  5. DavidAlma
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    I have used LBC to send to Dubai. Very reliable and it didn't cost anything like that. I have also received normal mail from UK Pensions Office, it arrived at my door in 4 weeks.
  6. Ian martin
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    I just received the letter in UK, it took 3 days via Hong Kong, leipzig and East Midlands Airport. 2390p. Its a great service. I just hoped there was a service that was quicker than the regular post and cheaper than the courier services.
    My girlfriend now has no money for our son after paying over 30 pounds for a single letter
  7. Anon04576
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    So you used DHL then?

    Regarding your girlfriend you could send her remittance if she’s now short, no?
  8. Ian martin
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    It was sent from a LBC office but used DHL as the actual courier as I mentioned in the OP above.
    I already gave her enough money when I left her in Philippines, 10 days ago but we didn't take into account the high price of the courier service.
    The PSA birth certificate took 3 weeks to be produced and transferred to the municipio, instead of the anticipated 2 weeks. It arrived 2 days after I left Philippines. They said I couldn't go to the regional branch of PSA the day I left Phils, to pick it up early.

    Why oh why the birth certificate cannot be simply registered only at the municipio and centralised later (like in Europe) is a mystery.
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  9. Ian martin
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    After a baby is born in Philippines, you receive a hospital birth certificate. You must take this to the municipio to register it as a civil birth. There is a small charge.

    It seems that some municipios give out a local birth certificate, but the only one that matters is the yellow PSA (formerly NSO) certificate, issued by a branch of Central government. This takes 2-3 weeks to produce after you register the baby with the municipio. Forget any transfer of data by computer, it's all by hand on paper documents.

    You collect the PSA certificate from the municipio where you registered the baby.
    This is the birth certificate that you need for proof of British citizenship for a passport. Its best to check for any mistakes on the birth certificate when you pick it up, females registered as male are common and registration date before the birth date . If there are mistakes, that's another 3 weeks to wait!

    This is my experience only, maybe I'm wrong
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  10. Markham
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    If you're relying on a PSA Birth Certificate (alone) as proof of British citizenship then you're about to get a very rude shock. You will need all the Ob/Gynae medical notes, scans and hospital records covering the entire 9 months of the pregnancy and the hospital confinement as well as photos of the three of you taken as soon after the birth as practically possible with further photos of the family group taken at regular intervals. In addition to Passport-sized photographs, you should also provide the child's Philippine Passport (which will be returned). You will also need to provide incontrovertible proof that you were physically with the mother when the child was conceived - and that date needs to appear on the Ob/Gynae's clinical notes.

    If you're not applying for a British Passport at this stage but simply want to record the birth with the UK authorities, then all of the above documentation needs to be taken to the British Embassy in Taguig, Manila. That certificate will not be sufficient evidence of British citizenship for Passport eligibility purposes and you will need to submit all the above paper work and further photos of you as a family taken at regular intervals.
  11. Ian martin
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    Nothing connected with the UK government will give me a "rude shock", all legal applications must expect to receive insurmountable hoops ahead. Its the "tyranny" part of " anarcho-tyranny" of the last throes of democratic government.

    I included 3 ob/gynae invoices, 1 photo of 3 of us 1 week after the birth with a date on photo. My gf only went to doctor a few times, we couldn't afford the bills. The baby has no Filipino passport currently. I am concentrating on the British passport first as it takes the longest time.

    I only applied for the passport 2 weeks after the birth. I have other photos available other than the 1 that I sent.
    Proving that we were together at conception :- only passport stamps showing we entered Philippines a few weeks before. But i can obtain a letter from the landlord where the deed took place if they ask. I mentioned that on the application form. I don't suppose "baby looks a dead ringer for the father in photo" is good enough?

    I provided everything that was asked for in the online documentation for "first child passport born abroad (Philippines) " but the "proof of paternity" was a bit blurry, yes. It did ask for proof that we were together 9 months before birth. The mother must be unmarried , otherwise you must get Dna testing. It's better if you are married to the mother.
    The passport office may ask for extra papers, but it is all entirely expected.
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  12. Markham
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    Given your repellant hostile attitude towards Filipino women expressed earlier in this thread and elsewhere, I have to wonder whether you deliberately withheld money so that your girlfriend could not attend her ob/gynae more frequently during her pregnancy. The sending of 3 Ob/Gynae invoices to the Passport Office will not be sufficient: they will want copies of every examination report throughout the pregnancy together with a copy of every ultrasound scan. As I mentioned in my earlier reply, they will additionally require a copy of your girlfriend's hospital file covering the confinement and birth. If you owe money to the Ob/Gynae and/or the hospital then the required paperwork will not be provided unless and until you settle their account(s).

    You should have obtained the child's Philippine Passport before applying for a British one; you would have had the Philippine one in a few weeks and it has become a requirement, even if not clearly stated.

    My guess is that as so many documents are missing, you'll receive a letter inviting you to reapply once you have assembled all the necessary documentation.
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  13. Ian martin
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    Definition of FORUM :-
    "a meeting or medium where ideas (PLURAL) and views on a particular issue can be EXCHANGED" .
    A forum is not somewhere where 1 person insults other people only because s/he is offended by an alternative view.
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  14. Markham
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    Here to remind you is what you have written about Filipinas recently:

    I very much doubt that I alone find your opinions repellent.
  15. Ian martin
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    Yes, I understand that you are offended by a different (respectful, strongly held due to experience ) view. That doesn't give you the right to make insults to a total stranger though in a forum.
    Please see the definition again of "forum" above and see if your behaviour is appropriate to a forum
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  16. Heathen
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    Jeez, and i thought i was tight :D, obviously you didnt give her enough money then..
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  17. Markham
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    Uha and what experience do you have of Filipino nurses that leads you to declare that they should be paid much much less than their British colleagues? That would be "none", then.

    I wonder, is your girlfriend - the lady whose child you're attempting to get a British Passport for - is she aware that you're a white supremacist who doesn't trust her and who accuses all Filipinas of being scammers?

    As far as
    that's rich coming from someone who joins a community forum and posts insulting remarks condemning the entire female population of a country, some of whom are active members here. Can you say "hypocrite"?

    Neither I nor any other member will take lessons on forum etiquette from someone who behaves like a troll.

    Good evening.
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  18. graham59
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    ... Just to return to the interests of the child:

    I 'procured' a British passport for our son, born in the Phils in 2015. At the time, his mother and I were not married, though we were a month later.

    He did not have a Filipino passport then. If he had, I'd simply have put 'no' on the Passport Office form anyway (irrelevant, and one more important document to get lost).

    We had SOME gynaecologic history, including 2 scans.

    I had air tickets for my trip covering the likely conception time.

    Photos together.

    Birth certificates... initial hospital one (with me named as father), plus NSO / PSA one.... PLUS CRS5 form. Forget what that is for... will look it up and edit this later. EDIT: Oh, Advisory on Marriage form.... so not applicable if you're not married.

    Marriage certificate, plus any other certificates they'd (PO) asked for.

    For the countersignature, I asked a Managing Director friend of mine, here in the UK, who's known me for 40 years.

    I posted all the documents to the PO from here in the UK. They will deliver the passport by courier, to the 'applicant' in the Phils though.

    The British passport was finally delivered to my wife in the Phils, over one year after the application had been submitted , and after I'd been interviewed by the Passport Office staff in Birmingham. Nothing unusual in the time taken, so be prepared.

    Just send them what they ask for.

    Don't waste time and money on their so-called helpline (the staff of which, I'm told don't have access to your application forms anyway).

    I found communicating by email to be much the best way... and I did receive helpful replies.

    This was MY experience in 2016/17.

    Consult the Passport Office website for current requirements... or email them.
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  19. bigmac
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    So you gave your g/f enough money for your son..before you left...and she blew the lot on a stamp?
  20. Shadscat
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    Sent lots of docs registered airmail to Angeles they all arrived.

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