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Cebuanos invent energy self-reliant vehicle

Discussion in 'News from The Philippines' started by Anon220806, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Anon220806
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    "It’s a bike, it’s a cart, it’s train, but its inventors call it Secret.
    Environmental lawyer Antonio Oposa Jr. teamed-up with mechanic Brian Yuson of Compostela town to come up with the Self-contained Renewable Energy Transport or Secret, which is powered by solar, wind energy and yes, the padyak or pedal.
    The invention impressed a mechanical engineer from the National University of Singapore (NUS) who inspected the Cebuano creation.
    “I was impressed with the self-contained renewable energy vehicle concept when I first heard it from Prof. Oposa when he was in NUS last year, so I came over to take a look,” said Nelson Lo, a mechanical engineer with a Masters in Environmental Management in
    a press statement.
    The semi-train is run by a bank of batteries that convert heat and kinetic energy into electrical energy to power a motor.
    The batteries are charged from three renewable energy sources – a solar panel, pedal, and wind.
    Unlike other electric vehicles which are charged by plugging its batteries to an external source of electricity, the Secret is self-contained.
    The energy comes from the vehicle itself and does not need to be plugged into an electric socket that is usually powered by fossil fuels (coal or bunker oil).
    Lo said that the invention shows that renewable energy in the form of solar and human-power is the way of the future.
    He also said that the invention could be a solution to much of the transport problems of the world without burning global-warming fossil fuels.
    “We cannot go on burning fossil fuels and taking up so much space just to transport people from one point to another.
    "

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/435103/cebuanos-invent-energy-self-reliant-vehicle
  2. Anon220806
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    Oss. What do you make of this ? Okay until the sun stops shining and the wind drops?
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  3. oss
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    John, second law of thermodynamics, where is the energy really coming from without figures on range and so on it is hard to judge?

    Also this has to be a typo they have to mean light not heat. Solar implies light not heat.

    Most other energy generation mechanisms convert some kind of energy gradient to electric or mechanical power, if the gradient in this case is large enough then yes I am impressed if not it is an interesting toy, solar is all about durability.

    Regards mechanical energy on a tiny scale I love this, I have recently developed a passion for watches and in particular Seiko watches also I have always loved Asian technology in general, my cars were all Honda all the nice ones like the S2000 and the Accord Coupe.

    So on to small scale electro-mechanical :) Seiko do a range of Kinetic watches that are like automatics, powered by movement, however the movement is translated into a 100,000 RPM dynamo by the mechanical's of the actual physical movement and the energy generated is pumped into a rechargeable battery that should last at least twenty years, if you put the watch down and leave it alone it will reset itself to the correct time and date for up to four years.

    I mention this only because it is relevant to the discussion about recovery of energy from the local environment, if they have done something special in transport terms then WOW I will be really impressed but I suspect it will be very limited in scope, a kinetic based pedal movement in terms of basic travel works better on a bicycle in my opinion, energy requirements cannot be escaped all one can really do is improve efficiency.

    Really hope they have improved the efficiency enough to matter.
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    Ah. Okay. Thanks.

    I was given a Seiko Auto Kinetic watch about 10 years ago. It was a gift from an oil company called BHP Biliton. It was a great watch and the auto kinetics worked really well. I sold it eventually on ebay as I just cant wear a watch these days, for some reason I develop a rash under the watch, whichever type I use. This one had a stainless steel case. But yes, it was a great bit of technology. I was pleasantly surprised at the price I got for it as it had been well used and had been engraved by BHP on the underside which of course I had to declare in the sales description.


    This was exactly what it did, though I dont recall it being for as long as 4 years.

    As far as I know, this cart technology is newly released so there isn't much other info on it just yet.
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    Looking at this a bit more closely, it would seem that someone has to pedal at some point or as a last resort for it to be 100% self reliant. And the article says little about how the wind would be harnesssed. However, surely could be better applied at sea. Gin palaces could run this way instead of burning oil.

    By contrast they still use a horse driven tram here on the IOM along the stretch of the promenade. They run all day long in the summer.
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    Yeah I remember the trams on the IOM they still run a few horses in Manila for the tourists at Intramuros essentially chemical energy (food) required to run the horses plus a lot of mucking out ;)

    Given that a good solar panel about 5ft tall by a couple of feet wide will generate about 250 watts on a good day and if there were a windmill on board the machine then I suppose it might generate a little more, so it's potentially getting up to the one horsepower level. However I can't help but think that putting a sail on a pedal cart would pretty much achieve the effect they are looking for :)

    Given the general climate patterns over there and the fairly consistent length of the day, I do think that they should exploit solar as much as possible but it's still an expensive technology for them, the panels for example have to be combined with the Pilkington Activ glass and that makes them even more expensive, given the pollution and heavy deposits of gunge on every visible surface as a result of particulates getting washed out of the air, they would really need the Activ glass for their solar panels.
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    It would have been funny if that had been the one I picked up recently, mine was manufactured 10 years back however it's definitely not engraved, the case is also stainless steel nice weight, the glass is sapphire and absolutely perfect after 10 years, got it for a steal on ebay 75 quid.

    Part of what I liked about it was the case and bracelet are reminiscent of some of the art of H.R. Giger, just a hint of his style.

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    Similar in one sense as the overall design was similar but the face was different. I have just had a squint through ebay and this looks to be the exact one. I sold mine in 2010. I recall the date was updated automatically also.....though it couldnt cope with the variances in days in the month :D

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    I know that one, very nice watch similar to mine, yes it's one of the Kinetic Auto Relay models looks like the SMA003 which has the 5J22 movement, was almost the same as the 5J32 movement in mine only difference was the offset date as far as I know, very accurate watches too, mine has gained 8 seconds in 2 months but like your old one will need reset tonight as it's not a Perpetual calendar movement, still tempted by one of the more upmarket Perpetual calendar Seiko's particularly in Titanium as I already have Seiko Chronograph that's Titanium incredibly light and a lovely metal to touch.

    A Titanium watch should be one that you could wear it is a totally biologically inert material however your rash may well have been simply due to trapped sweat and the change in material might not help.

    Me I didn't wear a watch for years and years just recently acquired an interest again but as ever I once I got interested I wanted the best technology rather than the best brand name so no Tag Heuer or Breitling for me, or Rolex for that matter :) Would not mind an Omega Speedmaster but that's more out of sentimental interest as my dad had Omega watches when I was a kid and also as they made the original moon-watch for the Apollo program.
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    I think the Omega Speedmaster that was used on the moon flight actually had a Bulova Accutron movement. based on a tuning fork principle (it buzzed rather than ticked) Got killed off by quartz movements some years later.

    I have an Omega Seamaster if anyone is interested.
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    I can't find anything on that Howerd, Bulova and Omega had been in competition in the early years to be the watch used by NASA for the lunar program, and it was the Omega worn by Buzz Aldrin that actually made it out of the Lunar lander, Armstrong left his inside because some electronic timer was not working properly. Bulova later made a big point about trying to get their watches used on the final moon mission.

    Ah just found it Bulova Accutron was used in the spacecraft instrument panels not in actual wrist watches, so that would be one of the the ones that failed in the Lander :) and why Armstrong left his Omega inside :)
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    :repost:

    Sorry I hijacked the thread John, was just interested in the clever energy recovery mechanism in a small device in the context of energy recovery and use in large machines, these guys here do commercial battery based bikes and trikes already http://www.batribike.com/see-the-bikes the problem would be price and the real problem for Filipino's would be the cost of charging as electricity is so expensive over there, fixed windmill and solar chargers would be a really good idea in the Phils if the price of components could be brought down and if battery tech improved a bit more.

    It would still be interesting to get some more info on this Cebu invention but it does sound a bit Heath Robinson.
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    No problem. It was a watch that I enjoyed, but I developed a kind of excema regardless of watch and that coincided with the advent of the mass produced mobile phone and since having a mobile phone I have learned to do without a wristwatch.
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    It does sound a bit Heath Robinson though it could be hybridised to eliminate the pedalling bit as and when required. I believe it is going to be put to some use on a Singapore rail system along a so called Green Corridor where combustion vehicles aren't allowed. http://www.thegreencorridor.org/about/

    The build of such a vehicle looks fairly cheap to put together so it's appeal might be in cheap self sufficient public transport in a green setting.

    Early versions of it delivered 1 HP, carried up to 10 passengers and a speed of up to 20km per hour. So you can see where it's utilisation might lay. It isn't going to compete with the high speed train. :D

    Heath Robinson's artwork is amazing.

    Yes, the battery operated trikes and Jeepneys. But they still run on hydrocarbon derived electricity. I think these guys are trying to get away from using fossil fuels.
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    Yeah that's a thought.

    When wind was mentioned though I really hoped they were not trying to get additional power recovery from the breeze generated from the forward motion of the vehicle as that's the sort of thing that perpetual motion nuts have tried in the past :)
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    I think their might be a fan or propeller involved. No sure how. Possibly a windmill type of affair. So what you have are solar panels, a windmill and pedal power to drive the vehicle and top up the battery. :D I can just see the Heath Robinson artwork in my minds eye now.

    Will be interesting to see what happens on this rail line in Singapore.
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    Sounds like a lot of hot air to me.......:erm:
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    Havent you seen ET? :D
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    Meanwhile, in the Netherlands.....

    Sun guzzler: New solar family car pioneered in Holland

    "Students at the University of Eindhoven in the Netherlands say they have created the world's first solar-panelled family saloon.

    Anna Holligan has been to find out whether it could be the family car of the future."


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23339794

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