Can't find record of his Philippine marriage

She will not walk away from it because her "face" is now at stake. But she would be very well advised to do so, because she risks a custodial sentence and, depending on the circumstances, deportation.

I tried to tell her this saying " I'm only giving you information, nothing else and no one is being nasty, we are trying to help"
She went ballistic! Calling me the mistress and snipping about the kids, Nast swearing etc. I see that as her feeling threatened and knowing she's been busted, she's trying to keep his family on side too but to be fair they want to stay out of it. Once we get the nullity of marriage certificate she won't have a leg to stand on.
By doing that will we be flagging the bigamy to the Philippine officials? Or do we have to file a bigamy charge to have her charged for it?

as i see it--youre both british and want to get married in the UK. there are no records of your partner being married anywhere--so--he isnt! so---just go get married. its then up to her if she wants to do something about it---in the UK---and--what exactly ? shes screwed. forget about her--shes a long way away.

Seems very familiar! (My Filipina ex refers to my Filipina fiancee as "That Woman..." when, as her own sons have pointed out to her, she was the one who walked out on them for another man, and K's actual offence is to be younger and prettier than she is! K's response was "OK, it's war - I am going to get your boys to like me!!")

Technically yes, you would be flagging up the bigamy, but in practice civil servants are civil servants, the Philippines retains most of its Spanish Colonial legal system with just a veneer of US Common Law on top, so most prosecutions are initiated by the aggrieved party and they are unlikely to initiate a prosecution unless your partner does so, the more so as she is UK resident. You might get them to file an Interpol Red Notice, which would have the effect of preventing her from travelling outside the UK.

confused.com. just where is the woman living now ?

Maybe I'm missing something but I don't get why would you give a crap what happens to the Filipino ex-wife.

If the British male is not married - I would just get on with your plans and your lives and forget about it. Change your phone number or your email and move on with your life. Why make your precious time on earth more disagreeable by dealing with people who just bring you annoyance when you don't have to?

My partners ex-non-wife is in the uk, she has been here for 19 years and nationalized for about 14ish

She is lucky that she did not depend on her marriage to your partner for her British citizenship, or it might have been revoked.

i'm now even more confused.com


She then married my partner in the Philippines a few years later,

Fair question, It's because of his children, even though everything she has done he doesn't want his kids to suffer. Which I understand as I have my own kids, but I don't agree with it, she broke the law and lied to his entire family and children for 14 years. Naturally I will stand by his decision though. All of this is for advice and to discover where we stand and whether what we have been told by e-census is true. Being an English perfectionist I like to have legal documents in front of me and a lot of research done, which is what I'm trying to do here. My partner is deslexic and struggles with paperwork so I'm doing it on his behalf

She's Philippine origin, British nationalized 14 years ago through her first marriage I believe. After uk divorce in 2001 she married my partner in the Philippines in 2002 where her family reside. We cannot find or get a copy of that marriage certificate as the first marriage is still valid according to e-census

aah--you hadnt mentioned kids before. in view of the fact she was married in the UK--originally---and divorced by her British husband--then married her second husband----you really do need expert legal advice about all this. please ignore all my previous replies--i hadnt got the full story--and i dont think i have even yet.

Please explain, So how does them having kids change what was done? I don't understand, that is honestly the only part I left out, as to me and him it doesn't involve them.
if he knew he wasn't married he wouldn't have had them. Another result of the lie, although very beautiful ones

Actually this is cut and dried and not complicated at all.

The British male was never legally married in the Philippines to the woman.

If he was married in the Philippines before, then he should have an NSO marriage certificate. If the NSO can't provide one, but only have a record of her PREVIOUS marriage, then clearly he was never married to her.

What she says or thinks isn't relevant. Kids or no kids. Whether she lied or not is an emotive matter. If I was you I would get a drink and celebrate the start of the rest of your lives.

You've had a lucky break. That's all there is to it.

PS. If you want further proof. Then just order a CENOMAR for the British Male from the Philippine gov't. That proves he wasn't married there. I ordered one for myself . Its not hard or expensive.

@ChoiAndJohn :We have had a new development today.
It turns out m her first husband applied for divorce, pulled out, she applied, found out she wasn't allowed to, so he followed through with the divorce. That then left him legally free in the uk to remarry,

so--that was a foreign divorce---does that mean the filipina defendant is free to remarry?

The Filipina ex-wife would be free to remarry in the Philippines, if she registered the foreign divorce judgement (in the UK the 'decree absolute') with the Philippine government correctly. She would however be free to remarry in the UK on production of the decree absolute regardless of whether she engaged the Philippine government or not.

thats how i understand it. so--she was divorced in the UK--and DID go through a church ceremony in the filis--which one would reasonably have thought would require the appropriate searches...

as regards her the OP,s comments about his kids--this is where i do think he needs expert qualified legal advice--which is beyond any of us here.

It's not relevant. The Filipino woman is in the UK. The British male is in the UK. They have the same parental rights and responsibilities regardless of whether they were married or were not married.

I would suggest the OP doesn't waste money on certificates of nullity or any such nonsense. Just get a copy of the CENOMAR from the Phils government and that, and the lack of an NSO marriage certificate and a lack of a British marriage certificate means he was never married to that woman and hence is free to marry again with no impediment. Her cooperation is not required.

As to the kids, if he is concerned that the Filipina woman may seek to leave the UK and return to the Philippines with his children, then he should seek legal assistance to ensure that she is barred from travel. The Philippines is not a party to the hague convention as regards parental child abduction. That would make recovering the children difficult.

Thank you everyone for the feedback you have all been very helpful! We now are so much clearer on where we stand.
Does anyone know how to stop her leaving the uk with the children please?
We have just applied for a cenomar in my partners name only