Brussels airport explosion

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by Bootsonground, Mar 22, 2016.

  1. Aromulus
    Online

    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    When one is faced with headlines of the sort we are seeing lately, it is very hard to mantain a dignified mental attitude to anything and anybody remotely related to the perpetrators, be race, creed or whathave you.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. subseastu
    Offline

    subseastu I'm Bruce Wayne Lifetime Member

    Indeed, I just don't like knee jerk reactions to an event that doesn't have any or little evidence to its cause. We've all seen how these things spiral out of control quickly and the bad feelings it leaves on forums.

    Anyway, all friends again
    • Like Like x 1
  3. subseastu
    Offline

    subseastu I'm Bruce Wayne Lifetime Member

    It is difficult and something we should try and maintain though. As long as we don't go down the daily hate mail route of lumping all immigrants into the one pot and blaming them for these actions carried out by the very small minorities.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. oss
    Offline

    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    They had that at NAIA 1 for donkey's years, with armed guards screening you and X-Ray machines on the way into the building, I used to get annoyed at it but grew to be reassured by it over the years, I've only been through NAIA 3 once and I seem to remember something similar on the way into the building but I can't remember, I know they did let the kids come into the airport with me which would never have been allowed at NAIA 1.
  5. subseastu
    Offline

    subseastu I'm Bruce Wayne Lifetime Member

    Yeah its the same at both terminals I think from memory. I just used to think of it as yet one more queue out of several when going through that airport. How effective the x-ray and scanner operators are though is another matter.
  6. graham59
    Offline

    graham59 Banned

    They're good at finding bullets. :like:
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  7. oss
    Offline

    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    It would have deterred these characters as they would not get as crowded an area to target, it looks like they trundled in with their luggage on a couple of trolleys and detonated it once they were somewhere busy.
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2016
    • Agree Agree x 2
  8. KeithAngel
    Offline

    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    How does that help you just relocate the crowds outdoors in the rain lol cheaper on infrastructure but more likely just displaced to another soft target
  9. oss
    Offline

    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Fair point Keith but for example the channel into NAIA 1 was quite tight, a bomb would still kill many but fewer would be injured probably if it were set off at or near the doors, there is also the point that a confined blast is more destructive than an open blast due to the pressure wave, inside a building a bomb will make a much stronger pressure wave than it will in an unconfined location outside the airport.

    It is horrible to speculate this way, but I find myself having to in order to make sense of it all :(
  10. Bootsonground
    Offline

    Bootsonground Guest

    Without giving it much thought, all the baggage goes on a conveyor behind a 30/40 ft long block wall..Behind the wall are trained sniffer dogs and handlers..Any suspect baggage to be X ray`d before entering terminal.
  11. oss
    Offline

    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    That's what I was talking about, in the situation that something like that happened at NAIA 1 outside the terminal there would still be many dead but the overall damage and numbers dead might be smaller for whatever equivalent sized bomb.

    I have a concern about baggage that does make it past check-in as up to that point there is no X-Ray and in a lot of airports bags are whizzing under your feet once you are airside, the baggage handling network at airports is huge and the likes of Schiphol have actual introduced a glass floor so you can see the bags whizzing underneath you :(

    So the question is when and exactly where does the X-Ray happen on hold baggage, if it is late on then you have bags under your feet that could explode at any time if these people choose that way to attack :(
  12. Dave_E
    Offline

    Dave_E Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Why not just apply proper (non PC) profiling to people walking into the terminal.
    Of course the security industry would rather take the opportunity to lobby for many more gazillion quid.

    The next "extremist attrocity" could be on a bus, a train, or the big dipper in Blackpool pleasure beach.
  13. Markham
    Offline

    Markham Guest

    All hold and cabin baggage is X-Rayed as soon as you enter the departures terminal of any airport in the Philippines and all passengers checked. In some cases belts and shoes must be removed and all metallic objects and cellphones have also to pass through the X-Ray scanner. NAIA's well-publicised concealed bullet scam did not take place at this screening incidentally.

    The big problem here is the technology used to scan passengers. If you pass through the security checkpoint and then turn around and watch as others follow, many of them will trigger the (silent) alarm but the security guard "pat down" is often far too cursory and in some cases isn't being done. Kids in buggies are almost never checked, as I have discovered on several occasions.
  14. KeithAngel
    Offline

    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    I would agree you can put resources and systems into making say airports less attractive but folk willing to die with a vest is harder and there are so many soft targets in a city its a bit like a dyke and you run out of fingers

    I have a fair bit of experience with Evacuation Planning and recently Ive been appaled with the lack of resiliance im seeing even for just fire most are generic cut and paste with no really trained personal behind them tick box exersizes

Share This Page