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Argos bargain - Norton Internet Security 2012

Discussion in 'Technology Advice' started by aposhark, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Hi,

    Yesterday I bought Norton Internet Security 2012 Performance Pack (with Norton Utilities) for £29.99

    It was £20 dearer everywhere else I looked :like:
  2. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Take it back......... Anything Norton or Macafee Ain't worth squits....:oops:

    Karsperski, in my mind is one of the best of the lot, and it actually prevents stuff from entering your pc, whereas the others will only tell you after the bugs have settled in...:erm:

    Even the free versions ov AVG or Avast are better than them two.... Don't they half make a racket when something is trying to worm its way in....
  3. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I have to agree with Dom Mike, I hate the Norton stuff, their professional products when installed on a server randomly halt my programs because something like 10 years ago Norton found a virus that was written using Delphi, so now every legit Delphi program in the world is at the mercy of being halted randomly by Norton, it doesn't even close it, it actually applies Job thresholds to it and pauses the application execution, bleedin support nightmare because you have no idea why the program is not longer working.

    Try explaining to your customers that Norton and Symantec Anti Virus is ****, I still got shouted at by my boss when I PROVED what it was bleeding doing.
  4. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Microsoft Security Essentials, which is free, does a fine job of protecting your PC without adding the whole pile of stinking poo that most of the other products install in the mistaken belief that you it.
  5. Kuya
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    Kuya The Geeky One Staff Member

    Agree all round with Dom and oss. I had Norton 360 for about 3 months a few years back, had all sorts of issues. Then I bought Kaspersky and uninstalled Norton (and what a pain it is to uninstall as well). Kaspersky picked up 3 active threats straight away! Trojans just sitting there... Never going back to Norton!
  6. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Incidentally, I bought my copy of Karsperki from PC World for £22, valid for 3 different pcs...

    So, my main home pc and 2 laptops are fully covered for the price of one..........:like:
  7. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    It's always nice to bag a bargain :like:

    I might just have found a good bargain in my search for a new laptop. Fingers crossed. Still checking.

    We all have our fav software. I'm using Avast internet security and have been doing so for some years now. It suits me and also has license for 3 pc's.

    We all have our favs. I've had a few people tell me never to buy a Toshiba laptop over a Sony, but that's just what I might do.
    As long as I'm happy with my own choices, no one else to blame............or praise. He he

    Happy days are here again.........
  8. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    My Toshiba Satellite has been going strong for nearly 4 years, and still well up to date.
    I only changed due to an insurance claim on my older Medion laptop.
    My new replacement Aesus, is stuff of dreams..........
  9. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    I don't know if anyone realises this, but buying from John Lewis gives a 2 year warranty. Apart from that I can order online before 7pm and pick it up from my local Waitrose supermarket next day - all free.

    I've used this service before. Works good.
  10. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Well, I have to disagree with most of you as I have been using Norton since the middle of the 80s and I am very happy with it. :erm:
    I was a tech (contractor responsible for a UHF nav system) on a ship once and lost half of my massive 40MB hard drive.
    Norton recovered it and saved my bacon.
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2012
  11. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Back in the old days I loved it Mike, Norton Utilities was a great collection of tools but in later years after Symantec got their paws on it, it became a technical support nightmare for me.

    For me it is bloatware now, like most of the AV packages these days, it places too many hooks into the system, which means that too much of what Windows is supposed to do for you is passing through Norton DLL's before you ever get to deal with it at program level.

    Just could not trust it anymore, shame really as stuff like Norton PC Anywhere was great in its day.
  12. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    What gets me is why any of you are paying for Anti Virus these days :erm: seriously?

    As an IT company we run MSE on all our machines, it's lightweight, it doesn't spend it's time annoying you with messages and questions that you don't understand, it just gets on with it in the background and is as good as any in terms of catching malware.
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2012
  13. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    How times have changed eh.

    I remember the very first small and truly portable laptop I had. I think it was a Texas Instruments M something with a docking station. Anyway it came equipped with 4Mb of memory. The Sales Manager for Africa had the same machine with 16Mb memory. Well I was his boss, so naturally I wanted either 16Mb or an obscenely expensive 20Mb Ha ha
    I got that 16Mb but I always remember our IT guy telling me it was just stupid because 16Mb was too much for anyone and would never get used.

    That machine cost over £4000 I believe.

    I think it used windows 3.1 and had a floppy drive (remember those?)
    But I had loads of word documents, excel spreadsheets and load of powerpoint presentations. Never did run out of memory.

    By coincidence the very first laptop I had was a Toshiba. By gosh it was heavy. No colour screen either. it was an pale orange kind of coloured screen I recall.

    Sorry for off-topic reminiscences.
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2012
  14. Kuya
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    I guess I pay for Kaspersky because I feel if I pay for a product I am getting something for my money. Plus it is not so much the AV part that bothers me now but other nasties like malware and internet sites with scripts designed for nicking my card details.
  15. walesrob
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    Agree 100%. I do computer repairs, mostly software related, and the most common problem is almost always to do with a virus. Too many times, they've let Norton AV expire, so there is no anti-virus protection at all, and because they are too busy to notice or cannot afford Norton AV subs, the problem escalates from there. I used to recommend AVG as a good free AV, but now its MSE all the time, its light on resources, easy to use and its free. I use it myself.

    Sean makes a valid point, the threat these days is not so much from virus, but malware, spyware, key loggers, so software like Malwarebytes are essential besides the usual AV for keeping your system from those pesky nasties.
  16. oss
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    MSE will catch key loggers too Rob and lots of other stuff including the advanced network stuff like Conficker, it also has rootkit detection and of course Windows firewall integration.

    I think the thing I hated most about all the other AV programs was their personal integrated firewalls, some of them worked well but they were all a bleeding nuisance to work with.
  17. Aromulus
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    I dunno about all this stuff you are going on about....:erm:

    I tried several things in the past, and invariably Micrsoft has got holes, which can be exploited by the unscrupolous, that are best plugged with something else...

    AVG and Avast are extremely good, Norton and Mcafee a total waste of time and money in my eyes, as they do not get rid of the problem as it comes about, but tell you after you have been infected... A bit late by then....

    Karsperski for me, gives peace of mind and an associated value for money. I know that bad stuff won't get anywhere near my inbox but gets zapped halfway there...
    I remember paying through the nose to have Macafee downloaded on our pc in Pinas, and withing two weeks the darn thing had to be re-booted completely...., Because the idiot that did it, decided to remove spydoctor and the Free Avast, not knowing that they can easily work together...:oops:
  18. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Thanks for the tip Micawber :like:
  19. ad4ms3
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    Why to pay for norton or kaspersky when Comodo Internet Security is as good as them and free? Plus Malwarebyte's Antimalware and computer is safe.. If I had time I would got rid of Windows Vista and install Mandriva..
  20. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    Most anti-virus software has caused me problems at some point in time, sometimes just after purchasing or when operating system updates are released. MSE almost certainly has the edge over other products in this respect.

    I have given up paying for AV products. If a free product fails I ditch it and just find another free solution. I have used MSE and would certainly recommend for the less experienced user - it does everything so quietly! But the test reports from the AV testing labs give it a fairly average rating in terms of effectiveness.

    Until a few weeks ago, I was using the free version of Avast but found this was causing the PC to lock-up at random times (usually after the PC was on for a few hours). I looked at anti-virus lab test reports and also PC-Mag's review of AVG 2012, who now rate it the top free AV product. Given that the company I will soon be working for only supports one free AV program, and that program is AVG, there was really no contest! So, far there have been zero problems.

    Another AV program I use is HitmanPro 3.6. It is very small (about 7MB) and uses cloud-based technology. If it spots a suspicious file it uploads it to the cloud, where it the uses four excellent AV engines. There is no need to register the software until you find malware. You then get a 30 day trial to remove any malware for free. At the end of the 30 day period it will still scan for new malware on demand but any future malware removal would then be chargeable by the purchase of a renewable license. So far, I have not had to use Hitman Pro to remove any viruses.

    HitmanPro does not offer real-time scanning (although you can set it to scan on PC boot-up) so you still need your usual anti-virus solution. HitmanPro is really useful as a second opinion, especially in determining false positives.

    Nearly forgot...

    A real boon for internet cafe users is that HitmanPro does not require installation and will run directly from a USB stick - it takes around 90 seconds to do a full scan and a quick scan is completed in under 30 seconds.
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2012

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