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A Kinder, Gentler Politics?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Ethics' started by Markham, Jul 12, 2017.

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  1. Markham
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    Here's Mr Harriet Harman on appearing in today's Daily Politics in a segment dealing with "abusive language in politics":


    The irony is obviously lost on Jack Dromey.
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  2. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Still on the "Politics" section then:rolleyes:
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Good to see Markham hasn't left the forum.
    I, for one, enjoy a lot of what he posts.

    I stopped ignoring a member with the view that there aren't many of us.......

    I needed some time away from the forum to see this.
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    I enjoyed my year off to and also stopped ignoring our resident REleaver:) much to his delight:rolleyes:
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  5. Markham
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    This is Jared O'Mara, the newly-elected Labour MP for Sheffield Hallam - Nick Clegg's old constituency:

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    and here's part of an open letter written by Liz one of his female constituents:

    I wanted to keep an eye on my belongings without being that 80s cliche of a woman of a certain age dancing around her handbag. So I’d folded my coat up, and put it at the side of the dancefloor. There were no signs saying “don’t leave belongings here” and, anyway, it was a fairly quiet night so I figured they’d be safe. And they were, until you walked across the floor, took one look at my coat, and kicked it. You didn’t “move it with your foot” as you later claimed to one of my friends, you very deliberately kicked it. I had no idea who you were – the bouncers later shouted that you were the owner – but I ran across to my belongings to check they were ok (they weren’t) and to see whether anything had fallen out of my pockets. I asked you what you were doing, and why you’d done that. You took one look at me and, without speaking, called over the bouncers…

    At this stage, one of my friends came across to find out what was happening. He put his hand on my arm, and said something along the lines of “Come on, it’s not worth it”. At this point, your bouncers grabbed him, and grabbed me, and one of them hit me in the face. Still, you said nothing. Now I’ve got my Personal Licence, and I’m fairly certain that there is no provision for hitting anyone – man, woman – in the face anywhere in the Licensing Laws…

    My black eye faded after a week or so, and while I was waiting for it to do so I joined the legions of women who cover up their bruises on a daily basis… when I heard that you’d be elected, my first thought was surprise. We had a bit of a laugh about it in the pub (“Guess who the new MP for Sheffield Hallam is! Remember that wazzock who had us thrown out of West Street Live by his bouncers, and they gave me a black eye?”). And then that Saturday morning, when someone alerted me to the rumours about you on the internet, and that song … I felt physically sick. And the arrogance and the contempt suddenly made more sense. Did you refuse to speak to me because I was a woman, and you don’t like being challenged by women? Did you deny ever having met my friend because she turned you down and challenged you?

    Do you think that women should be “put in their place” by whatever means necessary, even if this means calling in people who are considerably stronger to do so? It’s been over a month now, and you have still never acknowledged that your past behaviour might possibly be ever so slightly misogynistic. I’m not really expecting a response to this which is why, in the light of Yvette Cooper’s excellent speech calling out vitriol the other day, I’m taking the liberty of copying this to some of your colleagues in the hope that somewhere along the line you can acknowledge your behaviour.
    You can read Liz' entire open letter here.

    What kind of man stands watching whilst one of his employees assaults a woman, hitting her in the face? Apparently a hard-left Labour MP.
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  6. Markham
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    This is Dave Budd, the Labour Mayor of Middlesborough:

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    Budd has been accused of “running over” an old age pensioner in a row over a complaint about a cracked pavement. Great-grandfather Patrick McGill, 68, is said to have ended up “sprawled on the bonnet” of the mayor’s car when he confronted him over issue last weekend. The Sunday Post reports that an argument took place and Mayor Budd “allegedly… drove forward after asking the pensioner to move“. Earlier this year McGill was left with a fractured hand when he tripped over the pavement he wanted to complain about.

    According to Cleveland Police "We received a telephone complaint at around 1:30pm on Saturday 1st July reporting that a man had been injured by a car near to Middlesbrough Town Hall. We have spoken with the complainant to gain further information."

    The Mayor's spokesman said "There is nothing to say". No word of apology or sign of remorse.

    Kinder, Gentler Politics Corbyn-style.
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  7. KeithAngel
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    I could equaly ask what kind of innocent repeats third party unsubstantiated allegations as if they were the truth.............ah yes sorry of course you do:rolleyes:
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  8. Scotschap16
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    Your attempt to link this - as yet unsubstantiated - incident to Jeremy Corbyn is risible.

    Are you suggesting that if the above story is as reported Jeremy Corbyn has issued instructions to Labour Party members to mow down members of the public?

    If so surely the Mayor would have first checked who the pensioner votes for!

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    C'mon Mark - you can do better than that!
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  9. Markham
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    I'm not linking this incident to Corbyn himself as a person but to the style of politics he represents also exemplified by Jared O'Mara's behaviour.

    The clue is in the title!

    :rolleyes:
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  10. KeithAngel
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    Actually he cant:)
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