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Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by aposhark, Jan 6, 2020.

  1. Anon220806
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    Word has come back to us that my sister in law is about to be provided with fibre broadband out in the provinces of Luzon.
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  2. Jim
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    Jim Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Here in Bacong we'v had fibre broadband more than 2 years. Pay for 50 mbps getting on average 60/70 mbps. That's with PLDT.
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  3. Anon220806
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    Amazing. And we struggle to get that here in the U.K.
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  4. John Surrey
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    I bought a 55" TCL a couple of years ago now for around P24k ... the lines are starting to go at the top and bottom :(

    The 32" Samsung I bought about 10 years ago for P15k is now serving as my monitor and still going strong!
  5. Jim
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    Amazing indeed, this morning did some more speed test.
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    90.9. upload 24.6. :)
  6. oss
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    Horizontal lines? Like dark lines of pixel failure across the width of the screen?

    I had an AOC VA (vertical alignment) monitor fail on me badly recently but that was vertical.

    Is the failure a bit like this but horizontal instead?

    (note the other artefacts are not really there just camera moire)

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  7. oss
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    How much are they charging you for that Jim, I can't get anything like that from BT.
  8. Jim
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    P2000 a month. Not the same speed everyday, it's supposed to be 50 Mbps but the last few weeks been getting over 50 Mbps. I don't know why but others around Dumaguete getting faster speeds too.
  9. Druk1
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  10. oss
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    We get a better speed in Metro Manila than we pay for as well, but it is still crap.
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  12. Jim
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    Jim Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Been told by an internet engineer that the quality of broadband over here is poor quality!
  13. oss
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    Local Internet should be pretty good for anyone who has fibre but for the country the real issue is the undersea cables which, at least in the past, tended to concentrate in the USA direction.

    The traffic that goes UK to Philippines basically gets routed through the US for example, overall capacity in the undersea network will have a big impact in the country.

    My kids do find the quality of service to be very variable, which is a big problem as they are distance learning just now and we have just been told that they will be distance learning for another year.
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  14. Anon220806
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    Just heard that the sister in law is now getting fibre broadband (about 40 mbps ) in a more remote part of Luzon.
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  15. John Surrey
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    Here's mine... any solutions to this:

    TCL TV Prob.jpg

    The line at the top cycles down every couple of seconds :)

    Think we bought it in 2018 - about P25,000

    I'll hook up the rj45 connection and see if they can tell me what's wrong with it ... I haven't tried that yet but I know there is an option for online fault diagnosis or something under System Maintenance or something.
  16. oss
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    Is this an LED or an LCD set? And I know it might be hard but is it an LED backlight LCD you can get cold cathode backlight or LED backlight these days.

    I can see that it is a glossy screen with a lot of reflections but yes I see the green vertical patches, the vertical failure looks similar to mine but less pronounced and only on 1 colour channel which suggests that it is an LED backlight issue rather than a failure of the actual pixels in a column like mine.

    The fact that the horizontal lines move is an electronics control sync problem rather than a panel problem I think but I'm not an expert in this.

    Try hooking up a different source, like your computer or laptop and put out a plain colour background and see what it looks like, the source signal will be different to the cable or digibox that is currently feeding the set.

    It is certainly a shame after only a couple of years, I hope we get longer out of ours.
  17. bigmac
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    ive had problems with 2 LG flat screens. the first developed horizontal shadow bars across the screen. I found the bag of frozen peas trick made a temporary fix--but the bars came back--usually in a different position.
    after a while the picture lost all its colour after a few seconds. so i got the next set--

    the next set developed faint shadow clouds--only visible against a very light background. i found rubbing gently with a dry soft cloth would reduce or move them..but never completely. That set is now in the filis.

    each of the above lasted me about 4 years..the latest, a £260 techwood smart 49 inch job ive had 17 months now. touch (tech ) wood.
  18. oss
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    I got a Philips 4K Android TV almost exactly 5 years ago now checked my receipt below, still works absolutely perfectly.

    The Tele I had before that was a huge 32" Philips Cathode Ray tube thing that lasted 17 years, I also still have a small Sony 15" Trinitron set that still works but I don't use it anymore and instead use a tablet or laptop in the bedroom to watch TV on SkyGo or on the various apps.

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  19. bigmac
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    so--whats the next must have in tellys?
  20. oss
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    They have reached such a level of quality that I can't see a need for new major features.

    The future should be quality like the Samsung QLED sets becoming available in larger sizes for ever lower prices and that's already happening

    8K would benefit giant sets but not that much is being filmed in 8K yet, the real improvements for the future would be on the input side, more 8K cameras with full global shutter for example and on the output end improving the output colour bit depth dynamic range, as almost all current panels are 8,10 or 12 bit and only the best HDR sets will be 12 bit.

    For comparison my 15 year old cameras are capable of 12bit recording now and 2 of them can do 14 bit encoding to file.

    The bit depth refers to the number of shades of a colour that can be represented the higher that number the closer to reality your eye will perceive the result to be.

    And global shutter refers to being able to read the entire sensor in one go instead of line by line or column by column, if you can read it all at once you don't get distortions (video wobble effects) in the output due to subject motion.

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